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Posted: 2007-06-15 01:07
by PlayPR!
'[R-PUB wrote:Garabaldi']Personally I'd like to see Israel before Japan, but the more factions the better.
Oh yea, Israel is a cool country, but It would kinda be just a clone of the US...

Posted: 2007-06-15 01:10
by PlayPR!
Double post... 4 mins apart wtf?!

Posted: 2007-06-15 01:14
by PlayPR!
'[R-PUB wrote:Garabaldi']The Merkava would own, and you know it :) .
True, so very true :smile:

Unless your in this one.... http://sabbah.biz/mt/wp-content/merkava.jpg

Posted: 2007-06-15 01:16
by Rambo Hunter
I could try get in touch with CQB mod if you want

Posted: 2007-06-15 01:24
by Bob_Marley
'[R-PUB wrote:Garabaldi']The Merkava would own, and you know it :) .
*cough*mobilitykill*cough*

Anyway, this gets a "meh" from me. Japanese forces are consitutionally bound to be purely defensive. Those troops in Iraq are engineers, IIRC there soley for the purpose of reconstruction, they take no part in security operations.

New skins, a new 5.56 rifle and a couple new viechles. fun fun fun.

Now the French, the French have some very interesting equipment that I would be interiuged to see in the mod.

Posted: 2007-06-15 01:32
by sekiryu
plus it would be more practical to have the Japanese fighting the PLA.
That's exactly what I was thinking. The JGSDF is in Iraq, as a humanitarian force (along with the JASDF airlifting, and JMSDF refueling coalition ships). Since they won't have any combat there, I'm thinking of a PLA invasion of the Japanese home islands.

Alot of this mod could be a simple reskin/modification of existing models. Here's what I'd like included:

Type 90 MBT
We could probably just take the Abrams model, and tweak it.

Type 87 AA

Type 89 IFV
Probably could tweak the Bradley model.

OH1
Recon chopper.

AH64D
PR already has one in the works, no?

UH60
Just add the external fuel tanks.

The jets would just be reskins of the F16 and F15. (but wouldn't realistically be deployed on a carrier)

Sig P220
Sidearm

Type 89
Solid stock for infantry (I have a replica that we could use for modelling). Folding stock, minus bipod, plus vert. grip and reddot for SF.

Type 64
For the DMR (add a scope). That would be the hardest one to model, since there aren't many pictures, and the only replica is rare and expensive. That's where the CQB mod folks could really come in.

Minimi for the support weapon. We could take the existing M249, and replace the solid stock with a wire stock.

Anti-armor would be either the Panzerfaust 3t or the Carl-Gustav.

Sniper would be the Remington M700.

I would like to remodel the helmet to be more Japanese style. The difference between the American PAGST helmets and the Japanese helmets, are the ear covers. They're alot more rounded and shorter in the Japanese version (replica on the way we could use for reference).

I downloaded some real JGSDF weapon sounds from some Japanese uploader site I found.
Now the French, the French have some very interesting equipment that I would be interiuged to see in the mod.
Like.....a white flag? :P

I love the CQB mod, but it's not as extensive as I'd like it to be, and there's never anyone online.

I'm fairly certain we'd be able to use the Japanese voices from the CQB mod without problems, as they seem to have taken them from BF2. They use the Euroforces voices for the terrorists.

Posted: 2007-06-15 01:40
by Rambo Hunter
so do you want me to contact the CQB mod?
And i don't think the Abrams can pass as a type 90, but i think the Norther Conflict mod has a Leapord 2A4N which could definately pass
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Like.....a white flag? :P
don't forget new player animations of hands in the air :P

Oh, and don't forget we can't tweak DICE models :/

will you be the leader/content manager? or is this just an idea that popped into your head and want someone to pick up?

Posted: 2007-06-15 01:42
by Desertfox
I dont believe you can edit the DICE models :/

Posted: 2007-06-15 01:51
by TexLax
Desertfox wrote:I dont believe you can edit the DICE models :/
yeah, not possible.

Posted: 2007-06-15 01:54
by sekiryu
Eh--I wouldn't want to be complete manager--maybe some kind of supervisor? I'm still working on my skinning skills and thinking about modelling.

The Leapard's turret could pass as a Type 90, but the 90's chassis is closer to the Abrams'.

Here's the soundpack

Doesn't have the Type 64 (though I have uploaded a YouTube video of Type 64s at a range), the OH1, or the Carl-Gustav (does have the Panzerfaust though). That Minimi sound is awesome.

Posted: 2007-06-15 03:11
by eggman
The whole "Japan only has a defensive Army" is about as real as 1938 Germany not being armed offensively.

They are one of the world's top military spenders.

We previously approached the CQB guys about collaboration and/or Black Sand Studios, but they were not interested.

The Dev Team is all for seeing community efforts spring up .. but we won't endorse or support them until a decent plan is put forward, including some resource commitments from the community.

Posted: 2007-06-15 03:26
by sekiryu
Technically, they are only a defensive force. Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution forbids warefare, with the exception of self-defense.

Define "plan" and "resources".

Posted: 2007-06-15 03:30
by Rambo Hunter
sekiryu, do you want them ingame or not?

Posted: 2007-06-15 03:52
by sekiryu
Yes.....if I didn't want them in game, I wouldn't have made this topic.....

What gave you the idea that I didn't want them in game?

Posted: 2007-06-15 03:57
by Desertfox
sekiryu wrote:Yes.....if I didn't want them in game, I wouldn't have made this topic.....

What gave you the idea that I didn't want them in game?
The fact that you said they were only self defence :P

Posted: 2007-06-15 04:01
by sekiryu
Which is why, earlier, I said the storyline would be PLA invasion of the Japanese home islands, thus making it self-defense ;)

Posted: 2007-06-15 04:04
by Rambo Hunter
You saying it was only self defense


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkxUEFBP ... ed&search=
there's a video for people who think Japan has a wimpy military,

EDIT: Shucks, you posted while i was replying

I actually have a map still in cencept on the Chinese invading a souther Japanese island (around Okinawa) with the USMC going, but if the JSDF is added, i could try make it for them...

Btw, your video of the Type 89 is at the top of a youtube search of 'type 89"

Posted: 2007-06-15 04:18
by Desertfox
lol, I thought that video you posted was the BF2 intro movie at first.

Posted: 2007-06-15 04:22
by Rambo Hunter
Heh, i wouldn't be surprised if that's where he got the first 3 seconds or so