Guide to Spec Ops

NaZar3TH · Post by **NaZar3TH** » 2007-07-27 17:47

only things the Spec ops are good for are CQB and destroying assests or bridges. the reflex sight give a good field of view for close quarters and the high rof of the gun is deadly at close ranges.

personally ive always liked rifles more than carbines, the carbines jus dont have the stopping power.

so yeah, spec ops is basically useless for anything else than close city combat.

Post by **Mongolian_dude** » 2007-07-27 18:26

NaZar3TH wrote:only things the Spec ops are good for are CQB and destroying assests or bridges. the reflex sight give a good field of view for close quarters and the high rof of the gun is deadly at close ranges.

personally ive always liked rifles more than carbines, the carbines jus dont have the stopping power.

so yeah, spec ops is basically useless for anything else than close city combat.

Unless your fighting MEC, who have a fully auto weapon with iron sights(that allow an alright field of view anyway), that is 7.62(1 hit kill to SF, no armour).

...Or the PLA, since their assault rifle is only 5.56, but makes up for it with higher RoF, larger Mag size and less recoil.

or INS or Militia for that matter, since both use AK-47, which are 7.62(1hit kill to SF), larger clip than G3, and the similar recoil.

Well, that just about sums up your chances as an SF in PR. You Die, like the rest.

...mongol...

Post by **GeZe** » 2007-07-27 18:34

'[R-MOD wrote:Mongolian_dude']

...Or the PLA, since their assault rifle is only 5.56, but makes up for it with higher RoF, larger Mag size and less recoil.

It's actually 5.8mm, so it has slightly higher damage ingame. So even more spec-ops killing power!

Post by **fuzzhead** » 2007-07-28 02:23

my thoughts on specops:

Please do not play as special operations unless you know what you are doing.

90% of the time, your team needs more infantry squads containing Medics and Riflemen, and less pointless spec-ops players. Please join an infantry squad and help them out.

In the future I will write a special section for Special Operations and their uses. Unforunately until the playerbase matures, we need more infantry and specops are just used by new players who dont know whats going on.

Post by **Mongolian_dude** » 2007-07-28 02:26

'[R-DEV wrote:fuzzhead']my thoughts on specops:

Please do not play as special operations unless you know what you are doing.

90% of the time, your team needs more infantry squads containing Medics and Riflemen, and less pointless spec-ops players. Please join an infantry squad and help them out.

In the future I will write a special section for Special Operations and their uses. Unforunately until the playerbase matures, we need more infantry and specops are just used by new players who dont know whats going on.

Preach! Preach!
He tells it like it is!

...mongol...

[SoH]Agent_KJ · Post by **[SoH]Agent_KJ** » 2007-08-05 12:51

i dont like spec ops, too cause they cant help other ones (repair, fierst aid, ammo)

they got the equipment 4 a lone wolf but they can help with their weapons...thats it

Most the time im a riffleman or medic

Question: can i heal myself when i have no more field dressings and no medics in my squad?

Post by **Dunehunter** » 2007-08-05 13:01

Like I said before, I do use the Spec Ops kit sometimes, in CQB. Their SLAMs can also be really useful in such an enviroment, for taking out hostile trucks, apcs, etc.

Post by **Mongolian_dude** » 2007-08-06 00:02

dunehunter wrote:Like I said before, I do use the Spec Ops kit sometimes, in CQB. Their SLAMs can also be really useful in such an enviroment, for taking out hostile trucks, apcs, etc.

So is an engineer, who can lay mine fields and repair viechles and assets. Plus, he can engage enemy, effectively, up to 3x more than the spec ops.

...mongol...

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-08-06 01:38

And SF is the launch kit for requesting limited kits. So whenever you may see an USMC Marksman or Sniper, you could have body armor, but he wont

Bowskill · Post by **Bowskill** » 2007-08-06 07:17

SF is good inside the Kashan bunkers. Drop in through the bathroom, kill whoever is watching the corridor and then drop a slam in the bathroom (for the guy they send in to kill you). Hide in the other room, then drop another in the corridor for the next guy sent out to get you and finally move into the control room to finish off the last of the squad.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-08-06 07:24

And instaprone around corner, eh

Bowskill · Post by **Bowskill** » 2007-08-06 07:42

Outlawz wrote:And instaprone around corner, eh

Instaprone? I don't know all the BF2 terms, only used to play vanilla once every few months.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-08-06 08:54

Good, if you see it, dont use it...

Post by **LeadMagnet** » 2007-08-07 06:23

I'll place my spec-ops kit against anyone in the forrest or in an urban area. It's a thinking man's kit and having carried a C8 for so many years when not behind the rifle it's nearly second nature for me.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-08-07 13:30

If only 12 year old 1337 had the ability to think, though....

Post by **Mongolian_dude** » 2007-08-07 15:37

FSgt.Lang |3-5| wrote:I'll place my spec-ops kit against anyone in the forrest or in an urban area. It's a thinking man's kit and having carried a C8 for so many years when not behind the rifle it's nearly second nature for me.

From what i see, its the "one man army, 1337 rambo" kit.
The most thought i have ever seen is to request the sniper kit and if not, the marksman kit.
I'll go up against you with the H&K MG, yeah? Because you do realise i only have to hit you once and your worm food. Or even rifleman. We'll have a 2 man firefight at 200m, which means that you will have to treat your rifle like a mortar, considering that i have x3 your range.....aswell as 1 hit kill still.
Why not i go war-vet on Albasrah and you go 1337 ops?

As long as we have decent pings, the SF kit is really quite appalling. In PR, atm, the 7.62 prevails. As much as i say that, the M16 is my fav weapon

. I played one match of Al Kufrah and all of a sudden, it all was so simple. Its great, especialy that rifleman is not requested AND a teamplay worthy kit.

...mongol...

Post by **LeadMagnet** » 2007-08-07 16:50

Again, as I said the 1st time, in a forested or urban area I'd eat your pretty little HG for breakfast...after I flanked you and shot you in the back of the head when I easily tracked down your location due to the sound. For shits and giggles I'd probably even plant a slam on your corpse to smoke any brave medic that tried to revive your *** as well.

I've been in the dirty tricks business a long, long time. The point I'm trying to get across is that when properly employed the spec ops kit has it's uses just like any other. "Rambo's" aren't restricted to that kit alone.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-08-07 17:00

Hi! No body armor? Well, thats a shame *reloads and goes on*

Post by **Mongolian_dude** » 2007-08-07 17:26

FSgt.Lang |3-5| wrote:Again, as I said the 1st time, in a forested or urban area I'd eat your pretty little HG for breakfast...after I flanked you and shot you in the back of the head when I easily tracked down your location due to the sound. For shits and giggles I'd probably even plant a slam on your corpse to smoke any brave medic that tried to revive your *** as well.

Well, that kind of implies that we are playing in a full-out match with 64 players where i would be blasting away, not the 1v1 you suggested. I dont really think that the SF kit would be anything special there. Every kit has a gun.
The thing is, its easy to say "after i flanked you". emplying that the squad you were with(in 1v1?) has me distracted and pinned.
Then going on to say " i would throw a slam on your body!" then saying "Its not only for 'Rambos" is like dipping aspirin in arsenic. Completely contradictory.

FSgt.Lang |3-5| wrote: I've been in the dirty tricks business a long, long time. The point I'm trying to get across is that when properly employed the spec ops kit has it's uses just like any other. "Rambo's" aren't restricted to that kit alone.

Yes, i too was in the dirty tricks business(like most that played vBF2). It wasnt until .4 that i stopped whoring SF and realised that there was such a thing called teamwork. Lucky i did anyway, because the .4 M4 was nicknamed the laser gun because of its lack of recoil and X-TREEEM rate of fire.
beleive me, i know about sneaky lonewolf ****. My Fav vBF2 map was Shongua Stalemate, which i played religiously (I know! lol). You may go on about how UBER you are with the M4, but you can just prone dive with an M4 and rake up some kills, but are you skillful or E1337? No.

The REAL use of SF is to carry out SF missions, ie Demolition of the enemy commander trailer. The REAL skill involved is not how many people you can shoot, but how many you can stop yourself from shooting and how you dont get shot while doing it.

...mongol...

Post by **LeadMagnet** » 2007-08-07 19:04

My we are full of ourselves today aren't we. I first mentioned that I prefer the SF kit in heavily forested areas or urban environments. You then challenge me to a 1 on 1 where you have an open fire lane of 200m. As you would say; "Completely contradictory".

For that matter, I made no mention of a 1 on 1, only that I'd take that sf kit up against any other infantry class in those circumstances that favour CQB.

In regards to my "Rambo" comment I was simply pointing out that any kit can be used by the online rambo's to run off on their merry adventures towards a quick dirt nap. SF kit is hardly alone there.

Could be worse....could be another helo whore who unloads his rockets into friendlies at the first sign of a flag going white....again.