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ECale3 wrote: Also, the M203/GP30 is not that powerful, and should no be able to kill the armored humvees modelled in game. It is, after all, just an anti-infantry weapon.

most huymvees arent armored, also artnez is correct in saying one grenade would put a humvee out of action, either by wreaking the engine or incapacitating the crew.

ECale3 wrote:Also, the M203/GP30 is not that powerful, and should no be able to kill the armored humvees modelled in game. It is, after all, just an anti-infantry weapon.

The M203 uses a low velocity HE 40mm grenade. The high explosive round can penetrate 2 inches of armorplate, 16 inches of concrete blocks, or 20 inches of sandbags at ranges up to 1,312 feet (400 meters).

The GP-30 uses a similar 40mm grenade except that it is a fragmentation grenade, which makes it more deadly to infantry. It also has a really cool variant has a fuse and set off when the grenade bounces.. so it explodes in the air.

Anyway, a 40mm grenade is more than enough to make an HMMV out of service. Even if it's heavily armored, it's still a standard car with armor -- thus it has plenty of weak spots to go for.

Artnez.com wrote:The M203 uses a low velocity HE 40mm grenade. The high explosive round can penetrate 2 inches of armorplate, 16 inches of concrete blocks, or 20 inches of sandbags at ranges up to 1,312 feet (400 meters).

This is incorrect, these stats refer to the penetration power of the 40mm HEDP (High Explosive Dual-Purpose) round, which utilizes a shaped charge for increased penetration at the expense of having minimal fragmentation.

The M406 Low-Velocity HE rounds which are the most commonly used have very poor penetration performance

but they should still take out a humvee or at least hurt the crew enough to take the thing out of action right?

not likely, considering humvees have been blown up by anti-vehicle mines purpose built for destroying vehicles (and with a hell of a lot more explosive than a puny little 40mm) and failed to kill the crew inside.

I'm sorry, but the 40mm are not the weapon most people seem to think they are.

Can we stay on topic please? :d uh:

I dont wanna be the party crasher, but hey...

GRB wrote:Can we stay on topic please? :d uh:

I dont wanna be the party crasher, but hey...

Once again, forum commando saves the day.