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Posted: 2007-07-31 20:36
by Outlawz7
Im in a bad mood every day, ty vm
I am just so happy at the thought, that there's a smart *** out there, who draws dots on his screen, cos he cant get used to a no-crosshair game.../sarcasm off
Posted: 2007-07-31 20:44
by eddie
I guess it'd be ok if I use some kind of accuracy hack then?
Posted: 2007-07-31 20:47
by geogob
Outlawz... you really make no sens at all.
What I don't quite get is why you need to have a dot on your screen to check for iron sights offsets?
During mod development, I spent countless hours check for reticle and iron sights offsets errors. Never needed anything like that. No pun intended, but I don't see the point.
Posted: 2007-07-31 20:58
by Outlawz7
He's playing with that, not bug/error testing.
Posted: 2007-07-31 21:08
by vanity
You ain't right, kid.
Posted: 2007-07-31 21:12
by Sabre_tooth_tigger
I was thinking this yesterday except I was in a apc at the time. Thing is if you a decent player you should be playing by feel anyway.
When I go back to bf2 now and try and hit things with the cobra hydras they are always off because pr has (slightly) different aim for them but before I started playing pr I could kill indivual soldiers with hydra fire - pr has bigger blast radius of course so now my aim is worse as well as being off line
Posted: 2007-07-31 21:20
by Wasteland
I just don't get how the dot helps you figure out where the site is zeroed.
Posted: 2007-07-31 21:27
by VipersGhost
Ah dude it was huge for figuring it out. I had to find a sniper rifle first as to get the best position for the dot, then make a VERY small but concise marker dot. Next go grab the M16 and ZOOM it in 4x...check out where the dot is and that is where your bullet is going. Its no big deal short range but in 200+m battles you better know where your bullet is going because this is a headshot game for now and if you aren't getting them...then you are dying.
BTW I was told to do this by a previous forum post, the guy said to use the tank site as it already has a nice red dot with which to put your dot on.
Posted: 2007-07-31 22:22
by Xander[nl]
Having software that creates one, or drawing a dot is not allowed by punkbuster. They see it as a hack/aimbot, and you'll get banned for it if they find it out.
Posted: 2007-07-31 22:32
by .:iGi:. Eggenberg4Ever
'Xander[nl wrote:']Having software that creates one, or drawing a dot is not allowed by punkbuster. They see it as a hack/aimbot, and you'll get banned for it if they find it out.
Out of interest, how would PB or any other hack detecting software know that you'd used a felt pen to draw a dot onto a screen surface that isn't being monitored by any software or hardware?
Anyway, I see where you're coming from VipersGhost.
Posted: 2007-07-31 22:39
by Xander[nl]
.:iGi:. Eggenberg4Ever wrote:Out of interest, how would PB or any other hack detecting software know that you'd used a felt pen to draw a dot onto a screen surface that isn't being monitored by any software or hardware?
They can't.
But I mentioned the PBbans (for the dot-creating-programmes) to make clear that dots on your screen are not allowed.
Posted: 2007-07-31 22:49
by Ace42
geogob wrote:
However you put it, you admitted that you are cheating AND that it gave you an advantage - however small that advantage could be.
Feh, it's no more "cheating" than having an advantage because you have a intuitive key-binding setup is. Drawing a dot on your screen with a magi-marker or putting on a piece of blu-tack's just silly and cheap. Kinda like spawn-camping, chopper-whoring, tank-sniping, seat-switching and any one of a number of cheap-*** tactics that exploit the limitations of the game-engine, but are totally unavoidable.
Posted: 2007-07-31 22:50
by Warne
Punkbuster in your house, raiding your drawers for contraband i.e. eraseable markers
Posted: 2007-07-31 22:52
by Outlawz7
'Xander[nl wrote:']
But I mentioned the PBbans (for the dot-creating-programmes) to make clear that dots on your screen are not allowed.
Its a dot ON the screen!!
Its not a hack software, he draws a dot on his monitor screen with a marker. PB can't detect that ffs
Posted: 2007-07-31 22:59
by Xander[nl]
I know...
I only direct you to the fact that PB bans for having soft/hardware creating a dot, to make clear it's also not alowed to have one drawed on your screen. The only thing is that PB and nobody else then urself using it can't detect it.
Posted: 2007-07-31 23:44
by Rico11b
I could give a shit about this dot on the screen ****. Probably 50% or more of you out there do it, or something similar. Even if new players didn't think of it on their own, then you knuckleheads just gave them the idea. It can't give you uber aiming, and it is certainly NOT an aimbot. I can't see how it would be any better than the old on screen crosshairs from vBF2. The bonehead that uses it still has to line up the shot. He still has the same chance as everyone else to get owned, so chill out ok. Maybe we should ban everyone with super high end systems too, that way I'll be the only one left
The one thing I want to know is where can I gather more info on where these weapons are actually zeroed without spending hours shooting at walls and ****. What should my point of aim REALLY be if it's not where I was trained it should be. I've been aiming using what I was taught. Perfect sight alignment, perfect sight picture while aiming center mass however, I do seem to miss easy shots at say 150 meters or more. Most guys seem to down me with ease when they have the M16, but no matter what I try I can't seem to get perfect shots like everyone else seems to be able to do to me all the time. I can't seem to figure it out. I know the M16 is NOT uber accurate as portrayed in game, but some guys make it seem that way when they can head shot me time and time again at medium to long range, but I can't seem to be able to duplicate it. Guess I've got the wrong aiming point/sight picture.
Posted: 2007-07-31 23:57
by Rico11b
'Xander[nl wrote:']It's true, ALL weapons in BF2 don't have their iron sights exactly in the middle. DICE just coulnd't get them there. The MR444 is the worst one, the M16 is one of the least ones. I'll try to find the topic.
Edit:
http://silver.nrgservers.net/crosshairs/
BTW, even BF2's crosshair (when unzoomed) isn't exactly in the middle...
So is this implying that my point of aim should be the center of the large light blue crosshair that covers the entire image? If that's true then some of rifles look like the round flies to the right and high of the front sight post? Is the light blue crosshairs intended to represent the point of impact for the round when fired? Is that a correct assumption or am I reading it backwards?
From the pic of the M16 (which is not a good pic by the way) it looks pretty well centered to me, but the pic is kinda small and the front sight post looks kinda jack up. This is all news to me, as I wasn't aware that EA/DICE had an issue lining up the aimpoint with the center of the screen.
Thanks
R
Posted: 2007-08-01 04:27
by Wolfe
If you're going to give him **** about a dot on his screen as an unfair advantage, then consider the following:
- Ban the use of wide screen monitors, since they provide 25%+ field of view from older monitors.
- Ban the use of "sensitivity on the fly" mouse controls since they provide a decisively unfair aiming accuracy.
- Ban the use of headphones or surround sound, since they allow you to hear sounds that most cannot.
- The list goes on.
While I don't condone the idea, the irony is that placing a dot on your screen doesn't help much at all, while using "aim on the fly" and widescreen monitors gives you a MASSIVE advantage over whose who do not have them, yet they are perfectly acceptable.
Red dots don't increase your strategy and reflex. If you're running around non-zoomed and using a red dot on your screen, your aim is worse because the cone of fire is huge. You're forced to use iron sights to reduce the cone of fire and recoil.
At close range it's just spray and pray dot or not.
Posted: 2007-08-01 05:54
by Lampshade111
The first guy who tries to take away my widescreen monitor gets cut.

Posted: 2007-08-01 06:49
by pasfreak
Rico11b wrote:I could give a shit about this dot on the screen ****. Probably 50% or more of you out there do it, or something similar. Even if new players didn't think of it on their own, then you knuckleheads just gave them the idea. It can't give you uber aiming, and it is certainly NOT an aimbot. I can't see how it would be any better than the old on screen crosshairs from vBF2. The bonehead that uses it still has to line up the shot. He still has the same chance as everyone else to get owned, so chill out ok. Maybe we should ban everyone with super high end systems too, that way I'll be the only one left
The one thing I want to know is where can I gather more info on where these weapons are actually zeroed without spending hours shooting at walls and ****. What should my point of aim REALLY be if it's not where I was trained it should be. I've been aiming using what I was taught. Perfect sight alignment, perfect sight picture while aiming center mass however, I do seem to miss easy shots at say 150 meters or more. Most guys seem to down me with ease when they have the M16, but no matter what I try I can't seem to get perfect shots like everyone else seems to be able to do to me all the time. I can't seem to figure it out. I know the M16 is NOT uber accurate as portrayed in game, but some guys make it seem that way when they can head shot me time and time again at medium to long range, but I can't seem to be able to duplicate it. Guess I've got the wrong aiming point/sight picture.
i have a mac.
why the f*ck would i want to draw on my screen? ever?