Side project Idea:Pr Vietnam

[Noetheinner]

Here you go,

US and the Brits aginst S. American Drug Lord
The idea here is that some huge drug cartel has tanken over several small S. American countries and the US AND THE BRITS, go down and try to liberate those countries back to the origional governments.

Definitely something different, and I don't know what you could do about player models being different and stuff like that, but there you go!

[JellyBelly]

Here you go,

US and the Brits aginst S. American Drug Lord
The idea here is that some huge drug cartel has tanken over several small S. American countries and the US AND THE BRITS, go down and try to liberate those countries back to the origional governments.

Definitely something different, and I don't know what you could do about player models being different and stuff like that, but there you go!

It gets my vote.

[BrokenArrow]

I like evilhomer's idea as well as noethienner's idea. Except the American conflict. The US Navy is too strong to have anyone invade is sizeable force. and after that, forget about getting supplies.

I think the easiest way to tie a plausible story together is have it nearly entirely in Asia (with smaller conflicts in Africa).

As i said before the US and UK are already in the Middle East, so the MEC could be played off (maybe) as Iran and Syria finally having enough of it and banding together to boot them out. At the same time, China's booming population and economy is hungry. They don't trust the oil coming out of the middle east because alot of it has been intercepted by the MEC for use against the US.

China turns to North Korea and offers better nukes if they will invade the south. This is because china wants to tie down the US and other UN countries there while they make a grab towards Russia. At the same time, they offer Vietnam similar deals to turn against the US and other Western countries by offer so much money or supplies for every Western hostage they can take (these rescue ops will allow for Special Forces to be used, though I dont know about there being hostages to rescue).

With the US and UK tied down in Korea and Vietnam, China makes its move towards recource-rich Russia. Here's where alot of Euro nations can be put in, Canada too. Snow maps all over the place with china making a winter crossing of the river (cant remember the name) that divides it from Russia.

From here, you can run wild. Japan could make a return to imperalism (the standing government isn't making much money off of exports because all the countries are buying war materiel.) So a bad guy with good promises gains power there, builds up the military (using China's aggression as an excuse.) And citing the death of many Japanese reporters covering the war in China at the hands of the Allies (western nations), even though the Chinese are responsible, launches another campaign in the South Pacific.

There you have snow maps, jungle maps, island assault maps, forrest maps, desert maps and so on all tied together (sort of). It's a little expansion on my first post here, hope it's a littl better.

[Noetheinner]

Blu, If the drug lords have taken over a few small countries there in South America, then they definetly have access to the Army, mabbye have the Army working for them, so yeah, I'd say they could have a feasable force in their hands.

[Ghostrider]

Evilhomer']To raise a valid point from this topic, if we were to do a moden conflict as a side story, what would you all suggest? Preferably nothing middle east, but something innovative and new?

Something Innovative and New....hmmm

I don't know if this is innovative, but hopefully it'll at least be new. Since the available factions involve the MEC, China, and US, maybe this could be done in U.S. soil?

You could set up yet another hypothetical conflict where you could find China Invading U.S. and at the same time the MEC carrying out terrorist operations in U.S. soil simultaneously. Not to help out China, but to weaken U.S....which can also set up the stage for MEC vs China engagements.

So it could be good to incorporate battles in different U.S. territories including the deserts, jungles that could be found in National Parks (just an example of the layout of a level and not the place per se), urban areas etc..

[BrokenArrow]

Don't get me wrong, the US would offer great areas for battles but its not feasable to have countries invading in force. Eddie Baker pointed this out a while ago that the US Navy is too powerful for that kind of largescale invasion. Asia would still give us all of the terrain areas possible.

[Eddie Baker]

BrokenArrow']Don't get me wrong, the US would offer great areas for battles but its not feasable to have countries invading in force. Eddie Baker pointed this out a while ago that the US Navy is too powerful for that kind of largescale invasion.

Someone did say that, but I don't remember it being me.

[BrokenArrow]

Ah sorry, could've sworn it was you.

[southtarnation]

ok i know no1 thinks the us can be invaded, but i love the idea. Maybe an american revolution. A new political party stages a coo and takes partial power of, one of the branches of the military. hehe Some freedom fighters who fight against the oppressors. they would be an ifeior force but could enlist the help of other countries who are tired of being tread on. Every1 hates us, and if they all jumped us at the same time it would be hell. Especially if there were usa sympathizers who gained acces to usa miltary machinery. who hates us, everyone we ever traded with, invaded, bombed, sanctiond, or otherwise assualted. plus half of the usa is devided on several subjects people have already shown their willingness to die for the way they think the usa should be.

wow i should lay off the drugs...jk, no 1 call the fbi, its just an idea!

[Tom#13]

ok, heres an idea i posted in the old forums. i was wonderinjg how jungle warfare could be implemented into the mod and came up swith trhis,
In The tiny state of brunei anti royalist guerillas , unuasaly well equiped and trained, start a campaign to overthrow the sultan. 2 days later the sultan is shot dead by anti royalists who sees control of beirut city and capture all british troops ther. the british prime minister accuses china of supplying the terroristts to further their interests in south east asia. and the next day their suspicions are proved as the newly named peoples government of Brunei announces that for the "protection" of the new government chinese troops are to move into beirut. It soon becomes clear that the new government is a puppet of bejing aschinese troops poor into brunei. the chinese then storm across the borders into malaysia and indonesia. The uk immediatly declares war ion china, quickly followed by australia (an oppurtunity to put the aussiez in). the us sends air units and the 1st marine division to assist. the next day coalition ships bombard areas of the occupied malaysian coast as coalition forces land in indonisia and begin moving towards the chinese......
i would really like to see this as it would allow amphibious landings, urban maps and fighting in dense jungle. theres something for every pody . sorry the post is solong

[YoJimbO]

Many people are mentioning the invasion of the US - it would definetely be a new & fairly original idea, so how about:

Following Russia's temporary stopping of gas supplies into Ukraine due to the Ukranians not agreeing to pay 4X the former amount - Russia makes a temporary deal and agrees to a compramise (okay, now here's where things change to fiction :smile

Russia once again raises the price of natural recources being exported, and Europe refuses to pay these higher prices. Russia cuts ALL supply lines to the West - and hostilities rise from there.

Russia forms an alliegence with China, who take advantage of the newfound support and invade Taiwan. The United States react to this, sending it's troops to the region. The United States persuade Canada, Europe etc to join in before it's too late.

Russia & China invade North America via Alaska (woo - snow maps, forests etc etc), and attempt a storm campaign southwards into the United States from there...

How about something on those lines?

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This would open up fronts & theatres of war more or less accross the Globe.

Russia, China, North Korea, Vietnam, MEC

vs

USA, UK, Canada, Germany, Ukraine, Europe in general

[Tom#13]

a ww3 scenario basically. maybe

[UK_Force]

In 2006 with the MEC haven now rebuilt their Army and politically and Military linked up with the Chinese in return for Oil - the MEC send Insurgents across to the UK. For the next 2 years a detailed picture is drawn up on the composition of the UK, their strengths, weaknesses etc etc.

In 2008 with the backing of the Chinese they decide to invade the UK sending a small lightly armed Force in. The UK react with a Highly mobile Force. (Great Infantry Maps)

The US decide to intervene 6 months later when reports suggest that the MEC are sending a large taskforce to the UK, with the chinese supporting.

The US also decide to invade China when in 2009 they themselves start strategic bombing over the US. At the same time a small SF unit is deployed to the MEC form both the UK and US to try to break down the resupply and communication systems.




Just a quick idea - but it gives a great setting for some Infantry maps ...... who has used the UK in a map before??

Potential for some great maps here

1. Scotland - Mountains and Snow
2. Coastlines throughout, for beach assaults etc
3. European style woods
4. Big cities
5. Motorway main routes to seize
6. Ireland as a "staging post"
7. Plenty of other small islands of the coastlines for "wake" type maps?
8. Main Bases to attack (USAF Bases included?)

You then have the potential for some maps around china, and then some others in a desert enviroment within the plot.

Plenty of options here ........ and Unique???

[BrokenArrow]

I think all these US and UK invasion ideas are very original but in a mod going for authenticity I don't see it happening. Maybe if the Chinese place tropps in South America and start raising hell there you have a chance for some southern US fighting. But nearly all of these land features can be found in Asia already.

[NikovK]

The MEC could very easily be a loose confederation of Syria, Egypt, Iran and other "Axis of Up-To-No-Good" Middle Eastern countries who unite to invade and squelch a newly-formed Iraqi democratic state with support by Sunni independants and Saudi militants. Strangling the export of oil from the Middle East and openly calling for Muslims around the world to commit terrorist acts against Western countries, they create a formidable force of regular front-line troops and auxillary jihaddists as home guard against U.S. counter-offensives.

With the U.N. in disarray from feuding between a U.S./U.K.-led pro-war organization and "pro-peace" European nations hoping to avoid terrorism inside their borders by the large numbers of disaffected Muslim immigrants (who caused the recent Paris riots among other things), North Korea senses an opening and launches its invasion of South Korea. China then launches its long-kept plans of restoring Taiwan and the Russian Far East to Chinese control, seeking dominance of East Asian shipping.

How's that for a war scenario?

[NikovK]

"Russia forms an alliegence with China, who take advantage of the newfound support and invade Taiwan."

I really don't think that's in the cards. They didn't get along even when both were communist.

[BrokenArrow]

I like youre war scenario alot, ours were very similar .

[Evangalin]

You want something feasable, yet new and inovative? Rightyo, Chineese Invasion of Taiwan, US and..Does Canada havea navy?