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Posted: 2008-02-04 20:24
by Spec
robbo wrote:How about Russia Invades Berlin they mount their attack through Ukraine, then the British or US forces (Only those because we have no Germans, otherwise it would be Germans) have to defend the city have it like a Push map. The UK/US forces are based in Rheindahlen as part of the Rapid Reaction Force.

Just an Idea?
Bundeswehr is in progress. German faction would be posible.

The problem: Berlin would need LOTS of totaly new and probably even huge statics, even in BF2-size, which cant be simulated and done in BF2. Thats why i think villages would be better, and OPK has some village statics that would also fit in some eastern german towns. But then - when they are already soo deep in - what happened to Poland?

Posted: 2008-02-04 20:30
by Masaq
Some great ideas knocking around here... so why aren't you guys picking up the mapping tutorials and learning how to make your ideas come true? :)

Posted: 2008-02-04 20:35
by Spec
Well, i kinda screwed my editor when trying to map for PR, and i guess i just dont have the skill.

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And no european statics :P

Posted: 2008-02-04 20:39
by Brummy
Spec_Operator wrote:No, i'm not talking about being untouchable (lol, i played to many WW2 games to say that), just saying it's a bit far away from the other conflicts somehow. But as i said, i'd love (from the map design) a few eastern european and even german villages and towns. Bit it would still bee a bit too much imo. I just dont like the idea of a third world war, we had enough...

I dont know how far in the future PR is exactly, but i always thought China would so far be the only big new thing, and the alliance of the MEC. Thought the new nato nations woulda join this conflict, and i even thought Russia to be in team 2 - but well, a timeline isnt a bad idea either.
USA vs MEC = 3rd World war
UK vs PLA = 3rd World war

Why would it be too far?

Posted: 2008-02-04 20:44
by Pride
Jonny wrote:Why not try concrete and wooden structures with a custom texture? Like Hongshangu?

You could use the bunker complex from Kashan for the statics.
That was what i was doing.

Because there are no buildings in the area i was mapping ( isolated area), the only statics i was using was ,military stuff; bunkers and trenches. I had all the new bunkers in defensive positions on a ridge/ mountain, connected by trenches.

But anyway, i haven't worked on it in ages.

Posted: 2008-02-04 20:47
by azn_chopsticks_boi
I think recently Polish are allowing American to build a base there. There could be a start for some American/Polish Vs. Russians > :) and the German faction is being made :)

Posted: 2008-02-04 21:03
by Spec
brummy.uk wrote:USA vs MEC = 3rd World war
UK vs PLA = 3rd World war

Why would it be too far?
As i said, too many conflicts make those Insurgencty and Anti-Terrorists operations and stuff so useless... Well, i always imagined the BF2/PR conflict smaller sized.

If this conflict would have been in europe, okay, i wouldnt want to expand it to china.

Well, as i already said, the main problem are the statics.

Posted: 2008-02-04 21:31
by ralfidude
Its funny how somebody mentioned a russia vs Poland map... utterly impossible! Im polish and ehhh.. what can i say, although we do have a bunch of commandoes as soldiers our army is not equipped with top notch stuff. i mean jeez we use russian attack helicopters still dont we? Buttttt we did just receive f16s.... still... but i wont lie, the option is hella interesting!

Posted: 2008-02-04 23:30
by BloodBane611
'[R-MOD wrote:Masaq']so why aren't you guys picking up the mapping tutorials and learning how to make your ideas come true?
Do work? Never! What nerve you have....

As soon as I'm done with my current project I'm planning on starting work on either a US or UK defensive (probably counterattack) map. I'm very interested in trying out a european town/village, so if some people with static making skills want to volunteer some workable statics, send me a PM. If not I'll work with what I've got.

Posted: 2008-02-05 03:23
by [T]Terranova7
Spec_Operator wrote:No, i'm not talking about being untouchable (lol, i played to many WW2 games to say that), just saying it's a bit far away from the other conflicts somehow. But as i said, i'd love (from the map design) a few eastern european and even german villages and towns. Bit it would still bee a bit too much imo. I just dont like the idea of a third world war, we had enough...

I dont know how far in the future PR is exactly, but i always thought China would so far be the only big new thing, and the alliance of the MEC. Thought the new nato nations woulda join this conflict, and i even thought Russia to be in team 2 - but well, a timeline isnt a bad idea either.
Just stop right there buddy.... people have tried to make sense of the conflict depicted in PR for years... and we have all failed miserably. You just come to realize... that there is no story. It's WW3 without nukes. You got the fictional MEC going jihad all over the middle-east, the U.S and U.K making a suicidal campaign into China while fighting the MEC and various Insurgent and Rebel groups around all over Asia, and Russia is just f#ck everyone! Next thing you know, all we need is the GLA and the toxic general to make madness :firing:

Posted: 2008-02-05 11:16
by Pluizert
Maxfragg wrote:i know he was kidding (even so im german and we are told to be humor free)
Of course i was kidding! hehehe! And no i am not german but dutch. And yeah we have some political stuff going on here and if you don't make fun of it, you can get some scary political policy! Like a new Iran where you cant say shit! Just make fun of it and go on with your life instead of being scared!

Ontopic; a European map is not very realistic. Unless we can create a Serbian Army with the NATO-forces on the other side. Maybe an IRA (insurgents) vs. Brits urban map in Belfast. Those are all wars from the past and not nowadays as the DEV's want it i guess...

Posted: 2008-02-05 12:08
by Ragni<RangersPL>
Pluizert wrote:Ontopic; a European map is not very realistic.
Why? Did you watched some TV news recently?

Russian attack on eastern europe is quite realistc.

Posted: 2008-02-05 12:41
by Pluizert
Sorry can not agree on that. Just because the US wants to build a rocket shield against Russia?
They will never build that (noone will allow) and the Russians will never attack an European country as their economy will become worse than it is! They simply dont have the money! The Russians didnt make any problems about the little 3. (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia) The Russians already have enough problems inside their own country, why create more problems outside Russia??

I have only seen some serious civilian problems over Belarus thats all...but no war, just some get up, stand up for your rights versus dictatorship.

On the other hand of course i would love to see a Arnhem (http://www.hotels-holland.com/info/Arnh ... hem-07.jpg) or (http://www.georgefoto.nl/nederland/0000189188.jpg) in some kind to fight in PR...

Posted: 2008-02-05 14:49
by Ragni<RangersPL>
No one knows what will happen in the near future, IMO every scenario is possible. All the fights in PR are fictional, some factions are also fictional (MEC for example), so I can't see a reason why there would be no european maps for PR.

BTW.
There is a book called "RED STORM RISING" by Tom Clancy, it's about a conflict between Russia and NATO. Great book, consider reading it ;)

Posted: 2008-02-05 15:19
by Pluizert
Most of the battles are fictional i agree with you. But for China it is possible. As they will become country no.1 and the US doesnt want that and will do whatever it takes to prevent that. The MEC-army couldnt be created as they are all different countries with different ideas. Maybe in the future when all arabic countries have enough of Israel they will create a MEC to defeat Israel, but the US will never allow that. (=WW3) But i cant really expect an European map as the Russians are way to poor to attack any east-european country. They aren't the big multinational from the cold war anymore! Maybe in the future with some help of China they might be able...

And i definately want to see St. Petersburg someday, so dont destroy that beautiful city!!! :mad: