[Kit] Ch-ch-chaaanges!

RustyBandSaw · Post by **RustyBandSaw** » 2008-02-04 18:07

Polka wrote:Perfect for the crewman kit, but M4 M68 ? Pics please

Google it.

M4 M68 = M4 w/ Reflex Sight

Post by **Jaymz** » 2008-02-04 18:14

Maxfragg wrote:M4 with M68 will just be the current specops weapon without fullauto

Correct and yes, L22 carbine has been dicussed.

@ Skeletor: G3A3 handling and recoil has beed changed a lot. It's improved a lot. No reason why a player would grab a kit with an SMG that has 3 mags and 1 smoke grenade for infantry combat.

@ Romangolo: That's not a QBZ95b, the "b" variant is the one we currently have for PLA SF whom in RL actually use it's big brother, hence the change. Even though the "b" variant is not fielded yet it's intention is a PDW, so for added variety we issued it to PLA creman.

Brummy · Post by **Brummy** » 2008-02-04 18:53

'[ABA wrote:Spike;600574']
L22A2 carbine, as issued to Royal Armoured Corps tank crews in Iraq.

i guess this is the sort of weapon your looking for, for the Brits crewman kit.

I think that the DEVs chose not to use it because it would need a whole new model for just one kit.

ReadMenace · Post by **ReadMenace** » 2008-02-04 20:07

=Romagnolo= wrote: USMC : M4 M68

The M68 is the Aimpoint reflex.

-REad

Rambo Hunter · Post by **Rambo Hunter** » 2008-02-04 20:37

Polka wrote:Perfect for the crewman kit, but M4 M68 ? Pics please

M4 Carbine w/ M68 Aimpoint sight. AKA US Spec Ops weapon (except with burst instead of full auto)

Spaz · Post by **Spaz** » 2008-02-04 20:59

Nice changes, now what will the pilots get

KP · Post by KP » 2008-02-04 21:14

*cough* P90 for MEC crewman *cough*

S.P.C-[Reality]- · Post by **S.P.C-[Reality]-** » 2008-02-04 21:46

are these changes going to be in the patch?!

Cp · Post by Cp » 2008-02-04 22:07

KP wrote:*cough* P90 for MEC crewman *cough*

*cough* +1 *cough*

Post by **Katarn** » 2008-02-04 22:12

Ghost1800 wrote:Wait, so the PLA crewman and SF swapped weapons, but how come the MEC SF still have an SMG (why not give them a G36 or something).

The HK53 is not a submachine gun. It uses 5.56x45mm NATO rounds. It is essentially a compact G3 using the newer, smaller cartridge.

DeePsix · Post by **DeePsix** » 2008-02-04 22:16

The changes look good!

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2008-02-04 23:09

[R-DEV]Katarn wrote:The HK53 is not a submachine gun. It uses 5.56x45mm NATO rounds. It is essentially a compact G3 using the newer, smaller cartridge.

Yes it is.

I see its time for a lesson in H&K designation once again.

First Number = 5

Cross reference this with the H&K numbering system, we find it means submachine gun.

Second Number = 3

As above, this means 5.56x45mm.

Ergo, HK53 = Heckler & Koch Submachine Gun, 5.56x45mm.

(Source)

DeePsix · Post by **DeePsix** » 2008-02-04 23:15

I didn't know that. And Now I do!

I thought the number after the letters was the total amount of M1913 rails you could attach to it?

Onil · Post by **Onil** » 2008-02-04 23:48

I think the CAR15 or the M733 would be more appropriate for the US crewman kit

ratlover232 · Post by **ratlover232** » 2008-02-04 23:50

Well stated.

Pariel · Post by **Pariel** » 2008-02-04 23:58

I think we can safely assume that the world in general places guns which fire a 5.56 rifle round into the "assault rifle" category, rather than the "submachine gun" category, which it would be if it fired, say, 9mm. See the M4 for reference (given that the 9mm version of it is often referred to as a submachine gun, and the 5.56 as an assault rifle, it is especially appropo).

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2008-02-05 00:04

bob your my hero

Slavak · Post by **Slavak** » 2008-02-05 00:04

+2 to P90, I love that thing.