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Posted: 2008-02-04 18:07
by RustyBandSaw
Polka wrote:Perfect for the crewman kit, but M4 M68 ? Pics please
Google it.
M4 M68 = M4 w/ Reflex Sight
Posted: 2008-02-04 18:14
by Jaymz
Maxfragg wrote:M4 with M68 will just be the current specops weapon without fullauto
Correct and yes, L22 carbine has been dicussed.
@ Skeletor: G3A3 handling and recoil has beed changed a lot. It's improved a lot. No reason why a player would grab a kit with an SMG that has 3 mags and 1 smoke grenade for infantry combat.
@ Romangolo: That's not a QBZ95
b, the "b" variant is the one we currently have for PLA SF whom in RL actually use it's big brother, hence the change. Even though the "b" variant is not fielded yet it's intention is a PDW, so for added variety we issued it to PLA creman.
Posted: 2008-02-04 18:53
by Brummy
'[ABA wrote:Spike;600574']

L22A2 carbine, as issued to Royal Armoured Corps tank crews in Iraq.
i guess this is the sort of weapon your looking for, for the Brits crewman kit.
I think that the DEVs chose not to use it because it would need a whole new model for just one kit.
Posted: 2008-02-04 20:07
by ReadMenace
=Romagnolo= wrote:
USMC : M4 M68

The M68 is the Aimpoint reflex.
-REad
Posted: 2008-02-04 20:37
by Rambo Hunter
Polka wrote:Perfect for the crewman kit, but M4 M68 ? Pics please
M4 Carbine w/ M68 Aimpoint sight. AKA US Spec Ops weapon (except with burst instead of full auto)
Posted: 2008-02-04 20:59
by Spaz
Nice changes, now what will the pilots get

Posted: 2008-02-04 21:14
by KP
*cough* P90 for MEC crewman *cough*
Posted: 2008-02-04 21:46
by S.P.C-[Reality]-
are these changes going to be in the patch?!
Posted: 2008-02-04 22:07
by Cp
KP wrote:*cough* P90 for MEC crewman *cough*
*cough* +1 *cough*
Posted: 2008-02-04 22:12
by Katarn
Ghost1800 wrote:Wait, so the PLA crewman and SF swapped weapons, but how come the MEC SF still have an SMG (why not give them a G36 or something).
The HK53 is not a submachine gun. It uses 5.56x45mm NATO rounds. It is essentially a compact G3 using the newer, smaller cartridge.
Posted: 2008-02-04 22:16
by DeePsix
The changes look good!
Posted: 2008-02-04 23:09
by Bob_Marley
[R-DEV]Katarn wrote:The HK53 is not a submachine gun. It uses 5.56x45mm NATO rounds. It is essentially a compact G3 using the newer, smaller cartridge.
Yes it is.
I see its time for a lesson in H&K designation once again.
First Number = 5
Cross reference this with the H&K numbering system, we find it means submachine gun.
Second Number = 3
As above, this means 5.56x45mm.
Ergo, HK53 = Heckler & Koch Submachine Gun, 5.56x45mm.
(Source)
Posted: 2008-02-04 23:15
by DeePsix
I didn't know that. And Now I do!
I thought the number after the letters was the total amount of M1913 rails you could attach to it?

Posted: 2008-02-04 23:48
by Onil
I think the CAR15 or the M733 would be more appropriate for the US crewman kit
Posted: 2008-02-04 23:50
by ratlover232
Well stated.
Posted: 2008-02-04 23:58
by Pariel
I think we can safely assume that the world in general places guns which fire a 5.56 rifle round into the "assault rifle" category, rather than the "submachine gun" category, which it would be if it fired, say, 9mm. See the M4 for reference (given that the 9mm version of it is often referred to as a submachine gun, and the 5.56 as an assault rifle, it is especially appropo).
Posted: 2008-02-05 00:04
by Eddiereyes909
bob your my hero
Posted: 2008-02-05 00:04
by Slavak
+2 to P90, I love that thing.