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Posted: 2008-03-25 16:48
by HughJass
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:ye I dont see where these skins could be used at all, its not like the MEC are in any position to invade Europe or the USA...
They can, and with russian comming there is definatley some place they can attack. Don't say it is unlikley because nato fighting china is unlikley too.

Posted: 2008-03-25 16:54
by Rhino
HughJass wrote:They can, and with russian comming there is definatley some place they can attack. Don't say it is unlikley because nato fighting china is unlikley too.
I didn't say it was unlikely for MEC to invade Europe or the USA, I said they are in no position to launch a full scale assault on Europe or the USA, epically with US and British forces attacking on there soil.

Its unlike that the US and British forces would be in a war against China on Chinese soil, but they are in a position to launch an assault on China if it came to that where the MEC are not.


@chuc

What would be good is maybe some desert skins for the PLA as there are a few large deserts in china.

Posted: 2008-03-25 16:58
by NYgurkha
Hills of Pakistan!!!!

/why do MEC always get the best outfits.

Posted: 2008-03-25 16:58
by Maxfragg
no comment on my idea of a map at the casbian sea with mec woodland skins rhino?

Posted: 2008-03-25 17:00
by Mongolian_dude
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:I didn't say it was unlikely for MEC to invade Europe or the USA, I said they are in no position to launch a full scale assault on Europe or the USA, epically with US and British forces attacking on there soil.

Its unlike that the US and British forces would be in a war against China on Chinese soil, but they are in a position to launch an assault on China if it came to that where the MEC are not.


@chuc

What would be good is maybe some desert skins for the PLA as there are a few large deserts in china.
Do keep in mind, that time can pass over the history of this/these conflict(s).
Perhaps it was the MEC offensive that was to cause the NATO retaliation?
Perhaps more nations have joined the MEC, strengthening their force?
Perhaps, considering the MEC and PLA never fight one another, that a combined force would put them in the position to strike NATO territory?
Perhaps the NATO forces are stretched so thin/recieved heavy losses, weakening their military strength?

As said by puppets on Thunderbirds, "Anything could happen in the next 24 hours".


I think the skins could be better. Perhaps a different colour for the body armour? Black? One shade of dark green?

...mongol...

Posted: 2008-03-25 17:03
by Rhino
Maxfragg wrote:no comment on my idea of a map at the casbian sea with mec woodland skins rhino?
Its possible yes but I dunno what would be the strategic point in launching an attack on that area thou I know very little about it.

Posted: 2008-03-25 17:07
by Outlawz7
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:
What would be good is maybe some desert skins for the PLA as there are a few large deserts in china.
Gobi Desert, 4x4Km, PLA vs. USMC(since we dont have 4x4Km PLA&US map yet)? :D

Posted: 2008-03-25 17:08
by Rhino
[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude wrote:Do keep in mind, that time can pass over the history of this/these conflict(s).
Perhaps it was the MEC offensive that was to cause the NATO retaliation?
Perhaps more nations have joined the MEC, strengthening their force?
Perhaps, considering the MEC and PLA never fight one another, that a combined force would put them in the position to strike NATO territory?
Perhaps the NATO forces are stretched so thin/recieved heavy losses, weakening their military strength?

As said by puppets on Thunderbirds, "Anything could happen in the next 24 hours".


I think the skins could be better. Perhaps a different colour for the body armour? Black? One shade of dark green?

...mongol...
With China its possible that they could launch an attack on Europe or the US since they do have quite a big navy and air force aswell as the man power to do it.

the MEC on the other hand have no real navy, I dont think they have any carriers or assault ships which would be vita if they where going to support a assault on Europe or the US.

There is no exact storyline to PR and that is to keep options like these open, but still you need to keep it realistic into what these forces can do.

Posted: 2008-03-25 18:16
by supahpingi
the skins are looking good,altough im not sure about them wearing US woodland.
It would look better if they used some kind of russian woodland camo imo

Posted: 2008-03-25 18:22
by [uBp]Irish
reminds me of BDU camo. very nice detail.

could defintely see some southern Russia vs. Kazakhstan/Georgia?

Posted: 2008-03-25 18:48
by Brummy
Kick butts!

Posted: 2008-03-25 19:08
by GR34
Nice hopefully we will see some good forest maps. Now lets replace the G3 with something decent I just hate that gun with a passion. When I play I always get MG SF or officer and use the pistol.

Posted: 2008-03-25 19:14
by marcoelnk
GR34 wrote:Nice hopefully we will see some good forest maps. Now lets replace the G3 with something decent I just hate that gun with a passion. When I play I always get MG SF or officer and use the pistol.
sad but true

Posted: 2008-03-25 22:38
by azn_chopsticks_boi
HughJass wrote:They can, and with russian comming there is definatley some place they can attack. Don't say it is unlikley because nato fighting china is unlikley too.
I believe GeZe stated that the Russians will not fight the MEC.

edit: not 100% sure tho

Posted: 2008-03-25 22:41
by GeZe
azn_chopsticks_boi wrote:I believe GeZe stated that the Russians will not fight the MEC.

This is correct. The Russians will not be fighting the MEC. Ever.

Posted: 2008-03-25 23:39
by Chuc
Stirred up the hornets nest didn't I? Thanks mongol for the piece of crit

Rhino: I'm planning to switch the PLA over to their Type 07 digicams, but just need some confirmation from sources.. But thanks for the 'go-ahead' I guess~

Btw, changed the body armour to dark green.

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Posted: 2008-03-25 23:43
by Spush
is nice, I like. nothing else to say.

Posted: 2008-03-26 01:40
by [T]Terranova7
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:With China its possible that they could launch an attack on Europe or the US since they do have quite a big navy and air force aswell as the man power to do it.

the MEC on the other hand have no real navy, I dont think they have any carriers or assault ships which would be vita if they where going to support a assault on Europe or the US.

There is no exact storyline to PR and that is to keep options like these open, but still you need to keep it realistic into what these forces can do.
Seeing as how there is quite literally no story, no background, no explanation on the MEC, or the conflict, how do you know if they don't have a Navy? The very existence of the MEC is unrealistic in many ways, and so their capabilities really can't be analyzed. The MEC could invade places like India, Central Africa, Turkey etc. Hell, since they seem to have established themselves in Libya, they could very well cross the Mediterranean Sea and assault Europe.

But truth is, we have Russia v.s Everyone (Except for MEC), the coalition forces taking on about 5 different opponents in one war... I mean the conflict already doesn't make sense, so the argument that the MEC couldn't be in a woodland environment is sort of a moot point, especially seeing as you guys (The devs) have previously stated you don't want your maps being restricted by a storyline.

Posted: 2008-03-26 02:13
by Cheeseman
In my opinion it's better to have no camo cover on the helmets. It should look clear such as this:
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Everything else looks very well made. :D

Posted: 2008-03-26 02:18
by GeZe
I would remove the grey flags and lessen the saturation of the camo.