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in terms of skill are marines better trained than the army or what?? apart from the kit, what differences are between them??

the US Army will be brought in because it's pretty easy to do...we already have player models and ACU skin, just add M4 variants, stryker, vbf2 linebacker tweaked to look like M2 Bradley,-SUNGLASSES!!!-, and your basically set. much less work than having to completely create another faction like UK

The USMC is larger than the IDF but still several times smaller than the Army.
It would makes sense to have more maps featuring the US Army than USMC or UK...but then it would be really boring. And not so popular with PR's International community.

And why hasn't anyone mentioned the M240B?!?? UK uses it (L7A2 GPMG), Marines use it, so adding it as a "Machine Gunner" or "Medium Support" limited kit (1-2 per team) would be TRIPLE WIN!

plus Canada (C6 GPMG)=QUADRUPLE WIN

Just an honest, innocent question, but I thought the US Army's standard issue weapon was the M16? Also, how will the M4 be able to compete with other factions' assault rifles if it is a carbine?

ironcomatose wrote:-The M4 will be their main rifle(not the automatic rifle). w/ ACOG variant as well

-The M249 with be their light machine gun.

-They will be used the AT4 and SRAW.

-They use the humvee(like the Marines), stryker(not like the Marines who use the LAV 25) and M1A2(like the Marines).

-They will use different camo.

-They will use the UH-60(Marines use the UH-1N).

As far as i know thats pretty much all the basic gear you will see them hauling around.

yeah, what he said + what I marked in red


@ waylay: The M4 is standard issue for all US Army troops with a few exceptions that have non-combat type roles. For all intensive purposes with regards to PR, it will perform that same as an M16.

Marine Boot Camp is harder than Army BCT (Marine Boot Camp being longer is not the reason); the average Marine is more disciplined than the average soldier. I am using the word average here.

Army is better funded and offers better financial rewards but the Marines pay you with a sharper looking uniform and more camaradie among the branch as a whole. Since after WWII the Marines have survived numerous (many times Army-led) efforts to "absorb" the Marine Corps mission into the Army/Navy missions. This is part of the reason why Marines value their branch's history and traditions more than the other branches do-"The few, the Proud.."

Their missions are different: Marines=power projection from the sea & "quick-reaction force" (they're on ships, duh) while Army=long-term, drawn out land conflicts with its larger numbers and logistical capabilities. The Marines don't have non-SF airborne grunts like the 101st or 82nd. Marines can win battles, but Soldiers (and maybe Airmen) win wars. However, I think the two branches will grow more similar to each other because of the similar fighting both must conduct in Iraq/Afghanistan.

In fact, the USMC does not need to exist. The Army conducted many of its own amphibious operations during WWII. It participated in the biggest one of them all: Overlord. The mere fact that the Corps is smaller and traditionally envisioned to perform such operations has driven it to "perfect" it, while the Army has not.

As to the question of whose actually the better fighting force...that's a question someone that has not served in both branches or even one of the branches cannot and should not answer (though I'm planning on Army ROTC atm). Anyone who proudly serves in their country's armed forces with honor has my respect.

Though an Army Ranger or SF soldier could pwn a Marine anyday

[R-DEV]Jaymz wrote:
@ waylay: The M4 is standard issue for all US Army troops with a few exceptions that have non-combat type roles. For all intensive purposes with regards to PR, it will perform that same as an M16.

Thanks for the info!

-They use the humvee(like the Marines), stryker(not like the Marines who use the LAV 25) and M1A2(like the Marines).

Thats wrong, the marines use the M1A1 Abrams. Both will update to the new M1A3 once its out.

LtSoucy wrote:Thats wrong, the marines use the M1A1 Abrams. Both will update to the new M1A3 once its out.

Do we have an M1A1 in game? No. So whos wrong?

billdan,are you just another weekend shifts at the armory U.S. Army lover?

An Army Ranger/SF Soldier could PWN a Marine anyday,ahahaha!

Marines actually are SF soldiers in a way.Just look at the missions they do.They're like a VERY BIG,SF unit.I'd LOVE to see a U.S. Army Ranger go one on one in a firefight against a U.S. Marine.

The U.S. Army has Rangers/Delta Force...

The USMC has the 22nd M.E.U. /Force Recon!

ON THE IMPORTANT SIDE,why does it say,M4 (not the automatic rifle) ?
is it suppossed to be automatic carbine? lol

Because U.S. Army use the full auto capable M4.

ALSO,The Army doesn't have MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts Program) do they?

agentscar wrote: Because U.S. Army use the full auto capable M4.

lulz!!!

ive noticed that the us army and marines are quite different, different camos, different guns, different vehicles, different roles, so i was curious is it the same way with the british army and marines? are they quite different or more the same?

billdan wrote:Marine Boot Camp is harder than Army BCT Though an Army Ranger or SF soldier could pwn a Marine anyday

I've met a few ex-marines that had to go through army BCT because the switched branches and they have informed me that the current BCT training is harder than what they went through in the marines. That attributable to BCT being "tweaked" for wartime meaning its slightly harder than normal. Army AIT is also pretty hard too. Everything else is right on target. The missions for both branches are significantly different so you can't really compare then to much. Yes, rangers are pretty much awesome. I'm not saying that The Army is better than the Marines they're there for two different reasons. But the Rangers are considered part special operations. The M4 is a Semi:Burst weapon M4A1 has the auto trigger group so its a Semi:Auto weapon. We haven't fielded a full auto weapon to the whole of the Army since Vietnam, found out that was a mistake and fixed it. We are all on the same side anyway so why argue about it. I'd fight with a marine next to me just a soon as I would fight along side a ranger.

OT guys. No "my branch is better than your branch".

Ok,srry master...

woops, srry dune

Bottom Line: Never call a Marine a Soldier and never call a Soldier a Marine.

billdan wrote:woops, srry dune

Bottom Line: Never call a Marine a Soldier and never call a Soldier a Marine.

Bottom Line: Dunehunter said enough with this ****.


Plus we all know chuck norris is boss.

charliegrs wrote:ive noticed that the us army and marines are quite different, different camos, different guns, different vehicles, different roles, so i was curious is it the same way with the british army and marines? are they quite different or more the same?

the RM and the british army use the same weapon same uniform same rank system ect but they are cold weather and mountain specialists but due the the current type of fighting we are doing they are being used as normal infantry

bullock wrote:the RM and the british army use the same weapon same uniform same rank system ect but they are cold weather and mountain specialists but due the the current type of fighting we are doing they are being used as normal infantry

I thought cold weather and mountain specialism was for Mountain leaders, which (straining memory now) is one of 3 or more specialisms. (good book for this is 'unscathed' my major phill ashby, not a long read- tis about his experiences in training and sierra leone)

As far as I know army and RM differ in training without the above specialism, using the USMC physical training test, with modifications and beach assualt training ofc.

Royal marines commandos are considered elite, but apart from the amphibious stuff they use what the army uses. AFAIK. They supply a number of roles in afghan and iraq, mechanised infantry, light infantry etc etc

Why will there be two faction of the same military ? There is already the USMC... What about Canadian Forces, Russian, French... I mean... Theres a lot of other important military with different equipment who should be added before adding more US since they're already in the game...

Thanks