[Faction Proposal] Irish Insurgency & AAS

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I've never made a new factions so sorry, let me know when you want kits made. I can modify any of the weapons you want me to as well (ammo and damage wise with code, not modeling or skinning).

[DeltaFart]

I'm thinking maybe asking for an AK74 would be a good idea, maybe using the Type 56 as a place holder? And the M16A1 i beleive if we ask nicely we could get it from Eve of Destruction.

[Psyko]

The Irish never owned wrenches? Man, life must have been hard for them.

As for your list, M95 seems kinda strange. Unless you have some proof that they used it. I think a more conventional calibered sniper rifle would make more sense.

forgot to reply to this one sorry.

Yes, there is a famous story around these parts about a sniper who killed a heap of british soldiers with an M95. He's supposed to have been killed eventually. but i dont have much information on him. Any irish guys reading this, might recognise the term "One shot paddy" lol!
Realisticly, i dont even know what year the guy was around. but if it was an M95 and i was told it was by people who know, that it was. Then that means it was post 1995 and therefor a modern time with a modern weapon. I know what your thinking, you are sceptical about the insurgents finally getting their hands on a proper sniper rifle. ill look for evidance, but dont expect any photographic proof. but i'll try.

EDIT: I found somthing...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Arma ... 90-1997%29
One order of proof coming right up! they must have taken the rounds out of the bodys and proven that they came from a .50 cal weapon.
Updating to M82 and M90

[Psyko]

Read the thread please...



Although, IMHO, perhaps the veteran kit should also have a pistol? He is, afterall, aware of what he is going into and I am sure he would want to go in prepared.

Yes. its well needed.

renaming wouldn't take long, but would be required IMO if we use any current map, hence why I suggested one that was removed.

The pickup kit is a rather good idea, it would be in a 'stronghold' style mainbase I assume?

Im thinking, the british are tasked with the long term seizure of weapons and the irradication of paramilitary operations in the area of South Armagh. (is there a better way to say this. i dont want to make either side sound too intense) So it means, that the british have a base up in the hills with a single permenant spawn there, a heli drops them out in the field close to a weapons cache location and they look for it. the Irish will be spawning from almost random locations using local buildings/debris/farms and industrial buildings as host for ambush points. we can deliberatly set caches in places where its easy to ambush in other words. The british can have a skimitar and a pair of rovers up in the base and the irish can remain on foot with only civilian cars to shoot through the windows, and their spawns will be close to the roads to the army base, so they can set IEDs. they didnt have technicals and they didnt drive suicide cars, so those are pretty much out of the question. We can make it a really hard game so that it forces people to use their minds.
I have been thinking of the whole tickets issue and i dont really know how to have it. because i would like it so the irish have an equal chance of loseing. do we want somthing like 200:99999? or 200:200 or 150:150?

[DeltaFart]

I still think some 74s should be sprinkled in, not the Mec Spec Op 74, the full size AKS74

[G.Drew]

Christ almighty, u guys are lucky Gaz hasnt found this thread, yet....

this has been suggested many many times, and trust me all the threads connected with IRA/Irish Insurgency type things has not ened too well

i wont go into detail why that is, because ill let Gaz do it for me when he gets here

[Psyko]

Well its not the whole country, so 200:9999999 doesn't really make sense.

But it does need to be tested before it can be decided, we can talk about the exact number of tickets all we want but it wont do any good until we have a map.

EDIT:
@ Drew:
But we have a plan. Did the other threads?

Agreed. if we have an AKs74u or whatever, we could use that for the medic kit.

Drew: Thats not helping. i'v been considering this for a while. and i have my thoughts and consepts together. Again, at the end of my first post, i said if anyone has problems with this on moral grounds i will not persue it. But for now, i would like to see, how successful this can be. and even if it is made fully. whos to say it will be implimented into the maplist. We can cross that bridge when we come to it.

[Tirak]

It looks like you guys are planning a more Militia/Insurgent hybrid type, with moderatly well armed and organized forces, with the Insurgency mode cache system, maybe we could get Coderedfox to start making a map for this, it sounds pretty interesting.

[DeltaFart]

Honestly I have no moral problems, and none that I can think of blurting out. Its not like there are people who came from the Middle East complaining about the MEC and the INsurgency.
Not AKSU the AKS just a regular AK74 with a folding buttstock, Id say the main insurgent gets this while the medic gets the old 47

[HughJass]

Meh, i guess it can be intresting...but if we get this i want america vs mexico

[DeltaFart]

Yeah all the mexicans in the US rise up in revolt, theres an idea now
I can hear all the you know whats cursing at me

[Psyko]

im thinking that we could have 6 pickup medic kits With the AK74. One sniper kit with the M82. and two sappers. and whenever any of these kits are dropped, the respawn after 30 seconds. I am strongly in favour of keeping the main bulk of the players out as infantry and not dossing about doing nothing. So we make them sweat a bit, we make them wish they had a kit and after a very short period they understand that it is a nessesity to carry a rare kit like the medic. But the basics (the ones you select from the spawn screen) will be...

Officer
Militant
Veteran

And the rest will be pickups, i possible. they will be short in number, but will respawn quickly.

[KP]

Christ almighty, u guys are lucky Gaz hasnt found this thread, yet....

this has been suggested many many times, and trust me all the threads connected with IRA/Irish Insurgency type things has not ened too well

i wont go into detail why that is, because ill let Gaz do it for me when he gets here

The man is correct. However thorough work you have done on this (I'm impressed, to be honest), an IRA faction has been discussed before and shot down thoroughly. IRA never was anything like the type of insurgency you can find in Afghanistan and Iraq. Having the IRA in PR would at best be slightly unrealistic. That conflict is also a pretty sensitive subject to many people.

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... and of course the main problem is that the "troubles" are basically over.
Also as KP says the IRAs method of attack tended to be car bombs, off duty attacks and snipers, who would fire once and then run.
Sorry to sound negative - Im just saying I cant see how this would fit with PR.

[DeltaFart]

its what if situations.
Id still rather the AK74 not 101 for medic, since it only was made late 90s this spanned much longer time, so 74s were more common