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Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:09
by Ironcomatose
'[=TC= wrote:nuetron;731145']Actually, US Soldiers are not allowed to enter a Mosque. End of story.

And the thing about US troops entering a mosque, yeah I am sure that US troops smashed a gate, purposly destroyed supplies meant for civilians, then went inside a Mosque...Then they stepped on the Iraqis, hmph...

This story would have been bigger had they had a video tape or credible evidence or something, then it would have been all over the BBC for 6 straight weeks! I hardly doubt that this really happened, that non-Iraqi soldiers entered a Mosque, that food supplies were purposufully destroyed, that they were stepped on(also a great insult besides just being stepped on), and that the troops just didn't care, destroying a Mosque and doing all of this.

Not that I have strong nationalism or am "tricked by American propaghanda" but I just simply don't believe that US troops would do something so blatent, disrespectful to a people who we are trying to get respect from, and so insulting.

United States Armed forces are not allowed to enter a Mosque, that seems as...stupid...as the movie "The Kindgom" where an American team goes into Saudi Arabia to find a terrorist. How more offensive could it get(if it were real life)? They have a woman on their team. WOW. I hardly doubt that American policy makers would allow US Troops to do anything offensive, at this point as it was when we entered Iraq, but more so, we need to be as little offensive to them as possible, and allowing 50 Christian Americans isn't a great idea. (no, most likley all of them won't be Christian, but all American).

The part about Saudi Arabia well Saudi Arabia hasn't been willing to enter any coalition since it fought against the Israelis in the Israeli War of Independence. The Saudis were on the loosing side of course, or Israel wouldn't be here. The Saudi's arent willing to join an anti-west alliance because if they loose than the west would not be very likley to buy much oil from them, but If they join the west's side, than of course they would be like Israel(except Muslim like the rest) and there is NO chance that they would join a MEC because it is the holy land and after the war(if anybody is still alive, or if it was a Nuclear war) than all Middle Eastern states(even Egypt) and many African nations would take down the government .

Saudi Arabia would NOT fight against a MEC, but there are many reasons why it would not fight with one.

(sorry for the length)
OMG are you that hard headed?? THIS IS NOT THE IRAQ WAR!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!?!?! This is WW3 damn it!! Fast tank on tank battles with epic aerial battles playing out over head! In reality our troops would not stop and ask permission to enter a building with a squad or two of fully modern professional soldiers from a government that they are at war with.

And for the last time, no one cares about what you have to say about the Saudis because this game has NO POLITICAL/WAR BACK STORY. What are you not getting about that?

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:11
by [=TC=]nuetron
WASHINGTON, Feb. 4 (UPI) -- "The U.S. military's rules of engagement in Iraq in the fall of 2005 forbade troops from entering mosques, even during a firefight..."

They need permission from Senior Commanders to fire on a Mosque, they cannot enter a Mosque.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:16
by Ironcomatose
'[=TC= wrote:nuetron;731179']WASHINGTON, Feb. 4 (UPI) -- "The U.S. military's rules of engagement in Iraq in the fall of 2005 forbade troops from entering mosques, even during a firefight..."

They need permission from Senior Commanders to fire on a Mosque, they cannot enter a Mosque.
For the last F**KING TIME!! THIS IS NOT THE DAMN IRAQ WAR!!

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:19
by [=TC=]nuetron
Ironcomatose wrote:OMG are you that hard headed?? THIS IS NOT THE IRAQ WAR!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!?!?! This is WW3 damn it!! Fast tank on tank battles with epic aerial battles planing out over head! In reality our troops would not stop and ask permission to enter a building with a squad or two of fully modern professional soldiers from a government that they are at war with.

And for the last time, no cares about what you have to say about the Saudis because this game has NO POLITICAL/WAR BACK STORY. What are you not getting about that?
They do need to "stop for permission" amazingly, we can't just blow the sh$% out of everything in sight like in the game Black(could you really blow up a building from shooting it with a MG?) there are things that you cannot do in war, such as drop the A-bomb on the religious capitol of Imperial Japan, or bomb the Imperial Palace during the Doolitle raid. Yes we plan, yes we try to make sure everything in order But this war is mobile and there are things that we cannot do such as invade a mosque, step on people, and destroy food for civilians.

Usually an occupying army tries not to offend people and turn the country against them...strange huh?

The part about Saudi Arabia....thats REALITY... and REALITY plugs into PROJECT.

Like saying Mongolia would fight against us with China, yeah it kinda changes things up.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:23
by Ironcomatose
'[=TC= wrote:nuetron;731186']They do need to "stop for permission" amazingly, we can't just blow the sh$% out of everything in sight like in the game Black(could you really blow up a building from shooting it with a MG?) there are things that you cannot do in war, such as drop the A-bomb on the religious capitol of Imperial Japan, or bomb the Imperial Palace during the Doolitle raid. Yes we plan, yes we try to make sure everything in order But this war is mobile and there are things that we cannot do such as invade a mosque, step on people, and destroy food for civilians.

Usually an occupying army tries not to offend people and turn the country against them...strange huh?

The part about Saudi Arabia....thats REALITY... and REALITY plugs into PROJECT.

Like saying Mongolia would fight against us with China, yeah it kinda changes things up.
You are one dense guy. For all we know the MEC invaded Oman first and now the US is there to liberate them. Thats the point, there is no back story and yet you keep plugging in current world politics.

Im done trying to educate you. Your just not getting it. Rest assured though, come Muttrah's release the US will be able to enter the mosque.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:34
by [=TC=]nuetron
Ironcomatose wrote:You are one dense guy. Do you know that? For all we know the MEC invaded Oman first and now the US is there to liberate them. Thats the point, there is no back story and yet you keep plugging in current world politics.

Im done trying to educate you. Your just not getting it. Rest assured though, come Muttrah's release the US will be able to enter the mosque.
With as little offense and trying to sound like I don't have an attitude(Im not having an attitude right now) here is my response, Iron, theres a note for you at the bottom.

I am asking that another element of reality be added to this game, I have been the one defense guy because people want to see a splendid massive firefire inside the Mosque.

The firefire will be one sided!!! One side will get the slightest upper hand, and for the enemyteam, either they will get camped when they spawn, or they will get cut to shreds when they walk through the door.
Thats the reason why people have been fighting for it. It will not be what you expect so don't go arguing for this awesome fun fight its not happening! It would be more realistic if the USMC were not allowed to enter the Mosque but since it has been worked on so much I hardly doubt that the team will say
"yeah, the MEC can shoot out and the USMC can shoot in but they can't barge in, nuetron is right!"

No, they will agree with you, and come the release of Muttrah in 0.8 the Mosque will open to the United States Marine Corps....You win.

Personally I am a Pilot, so I could choose from the Harrier, or the Huey or the **** **** *********s, or the *********(not sure what I can say, but I won't until its release) So I will be in the air, and if I am MEC I could just pilot the ***-* or the *****. So USMC I will be flying, MEC I won't be near the mosque...

I won't be in the big h3ll hold bloodbath that is the battle for the Mosque, but I wanted to add some more reality to PR, sorry.

Now, with as little attitude as I can express over the internet... Good luck getting camped. Really, good luck when you are fighting for the Mosque, I know something else that will end the fight in a heartbeat(actually a-boot 7 heartbeats). When you play you will see, and for your sake I hope that you are always USMC while playing Muttrah v2.

You win, good luck, thread done: USMC will be allowed to enter Mosque

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:40
by Celestial1
Hey. Guess what! US troops were given permission to invade the mosque due to the large scale contact.

Hooray, quit your BS whining, all of you (mostly nuetron).

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:41
by HughJass
I def. remember reading about marines getting permission and stuff to enter mousqe ground since there was a lot of fire coming down from there.

Anyway, according to geneva convention you are NOT allowed to go in to religious buildings like mousqe, etc.

BUT you are also NOT allowed to fire from such a place, deeming the building a threat.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:47
by [=TC=]nuetron
Celestial1 wrote:Hey. Guess what! US troops were given permission to invade the mosque due to the large scale contact.

Hooray, quit your BS whining, all of you (mostly nuetron).
O hay guess what? its over, Im actually surprised that this hasn't already been locked and that I already don't have a warning!!! I tried not to seem like a d1#k while typing that, but of course when you read it looks like im having a temper tantrem and I will get a warning.
http://www.mnwxchaser.com/beating-a-dead-horse.gif
Its over, good bye.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:48
by Fluffywuffy
Dood mig-17 for insurgents!


Plz lock this thread its senseless smacktardary

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:51
by Ironcomatose
Feuerwaffen wrote:Dood mig-17 for insurgents!


Plz lock this thread its senseless smacktardary
There are no MODs on right seeing as its 7:50am(ish) in the EU.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:52
by Airsoft
nearly 3am EST consider this as when most people are offline

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:52
by Fluffywuffy
Okita is on.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:53
by [=TC=]nuetron
Feuerwaffen wrote:Dood mig-17 for insurgents!


Plz lock this thread its senseless smacktardary
Suggested something along those lines when I started plaing(no, not exactly that but something like that)

And I am already waiting for my warning for what I wrote(typed whatever),
It looks like I was po'd huh? I didn't have an attitude, but it appears so.... removing this from my favorites. good bye

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:55
by SGT.JOKER
Ironcamotose said it all. It'd be unrealistic so I think not good sir.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 06:55
by [=TC=]nuetron
Iron you see your note at the bottom?

I feel that in the end I won the battle, but You have won the war.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 07:15
by Fluffywuffy
Are you aware that that 28/32 of your post were locked because of a ignorant idea or being resuggested.

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 07:27
by [=TC=]nuetron
And? I posted most of those when I first joined, or were closed because if you leave open a thread when I say yes its over, then people spam it like right now.

While you're there, I also failed Science in my Sophomore year of High School, and when I was a kid I tried to steal 3 arrows from a vendor @ OC fair....what else....I want to be a Marine pilot so I guess that makes me evil you know, so I am evil also.

so I had 7 threads closed(8 soon) with 6 of them because I had just joined and had alot of ideas and felt like defending them.(the last two were just closed because people would spam it like...now!?!?)
I failed a class because I was getting a B and slacked off to support three other classes
and I tried to take a toy from a business @ a local fair when I was a child.

O not to mention I am evil :wink: can't 4get that one :evil: :evil: :evil:

Re: Americans cannot go in Mosque on Muttrah v2

Posted: 2008-07-17 07:31
by Fluffywuffy
God damn you're weird.





Nuff said im outta this thread forever