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Beafy wrote:New players are welcome if they dont suck, but if there smacktards they will get kicked / owned a lot

What your implying is "If they have some skill then I like them", well let me go ahead and tell you that when your new you have NO skill yet. Yet.

I always welcome newbies to my squads because I want to help them play the game correctly, not the cheapest, easiest way. By doing this I feel that these players learn how to better help their team and their community.

Then again, when I was new I learned fast (first time as commander I got recommended in the recommendation page )

maz.uk wrote:the word noob should be banned from the forum and hard coded into servers so guys that say it get banned

"OMG, I'm a noob, I missed him!"

You were kicked for 999999minutes for saying a banned word NOOB

Deadfast wrote:"OMG, I'm a noob, I missed him!"

You were kicked for 999999minutes for saying a banned word NOOB

Yeah, one server has that on their banned words list. Needless to say i avoid playing there tbh.

I have no problem with newbies who read the manual and are willing to spend some time to get used to the mod. Bitching 12-year old noobs however...

Wolfspirit wrote:I have been going over some of the posts here and with all the NOOB references, it almost makes a new player hesitant about playing PR.

If you do what SL and CO tells you, be a teamplayer and don't act like vanilla BF2, you are welcome.

black-wolf wrote:Todays noob is tomorrow's pro. Remember that

Except for people like me, who were always pro

Seriously, there is no game that is more un-friendly to noobs than PR. Maybe chess, but that's about it.

random pants wrote:Seriously, there is no game that is more un-friendly to noobs than PR

There's no game more unfriendly to noobs than PR? What are you talking about? :-\ PR has a steep learning curve, but anyone willing to learn how to play it is more than welcome, in-game as well as on the forums.

What are YOU talking about? With the legions of rules and quirks, brutal punishment for mistakes, insane map scale/detail, and so many seasoned vets, how is PR NOT the most un-friendly noob game?

You kind of contradict yourself in your own statement, as well. "Anyone willing to learn how to play it, steep learning curve...."

Last time I checked, you didn't have to read a freaking manual after installing unreal 2k4...

'[R-DEV wrote:Masaq;785803']Hey, welcome to the forums. For the past two years I've been fighting a battle - not completely alone, thankfully - to get the general forum community more accepting of new players.

Whilst the current level of "newbie" and "noob" bashing isn't anything like as bad as it used to be, it's still unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.



New players are PR's biggest asset. They're what keep the gameplay itself new and interesting; as much as DEV changes can do, they're meaningless unless players put them into practice and often new players find that easier than existing ones (as they're bound by tradition and old tactics etc).

Any new member who joins these forums and generally wants to learn how to play PR is welcome, in my book. Sure, they'll make mistaked in-game and find it bloody difficult to get going, but with time and patience they'll become a great new player.

Give me a squad to lead that's full of keen new players eager to learn than a squad full of veterans bitching about new gameplay and bitching about how I'm running the squad, any day!


So, welcome to the forums and if anyone flames you for being a newbie, send me a private message and they'll get their asses kicked. I won't tolerate it in-game or on-forum.

Tactics & Teamwork [T&T] - are being particularly strict on this at the minute, any player caught abusing a newbie on our server is getting kicked

way to stick it to us... wait a minute...

=D We don't bash newbs... just people who speak and ask questions that any vet would normally know

nah.. ONLY thing i don't like about new people are that they get on, act like vBF2 people... then turn around saying the mod sucks... so yeah

As long as you're willing to work as a team, then yeah. Welcome!

random pants wrote:What are YOU talking about? With the legions of rules and quirks, brutal punishment for mistakes, insane map scale/detail, and so many seasoned vets, how is PR NOT the most un-friendly noob game?

You kind of contradict yourself in your own statement, as well. "Anyone willing to learn how to play it, steep learning curve...."

Last time I checked, you didn't have to read a freaking manual after installing unreal 2k4...

I agree, it is very daunting at first.

I've always suggested this and because of these reasons, i still suggest there should be a little intro like BF2142 had when you first started the game (also unskippable).

Not gonna read this all, cuz I wanna watch another episode...

But welcome to the forums

AND, Just read the manual, ask questions, do your part. Let them know you are new and your squad will understand. Take simple roles like rifleman. Stick with your squad and you will do fine.

I know the community comes across rather negative at times, and I agree with masaq, its not at an acceptable level, but in the communities defense, many times they may seem rude are when people could have simply searched the forums or read the manual. Not that that means the rude people are showing acceptable behavior... but you know...

Anyway, welcome to the forums, and dont be scared to ask questions! [but search first ]

Lol... Okita that was so half-assed, you even admitted how half-assed it was going to be before half-assing it..

you're still cool though...

random pants wrote:What are YOU talking about? With the legions of rules and quirks, brutal punishment for mistakes, insane map scale/detail, and so many seasoned vets, how is PR NOT the most un-friendly noob game?

You kind of contradict yourself in your own statement, as well. "Anyone willing to learn how to play it, steep learning curve...."

Last time I checked, you didn't have to read a freaking manual after installing unreal 2k4...

Because we the players, are in fact friendly

random pants wrote:What are YOU talking about? With the legions of rules and quirks, brutal punishment for mistakes, insane map scale/detail, and so many seasoned vets, how is PR NOT the most un-friendly noob game?

You kind of contradict yourself in your own statement, as well. "Anyone willing to learn how to play it, steep learning curve...."

Last time I checked, you didn't have to read a freaking manual after installing unreal 2k4...

Oh give me a break. Are you now comparing the "learning curve" of Unreal 2004 with PR?

If you are willing to learn the game, you'll manage just fine. Yes, it's hard, but it's not unfriendly. Playing the basics of the game is simple actually (I'm talking about the "rules"). It gets harder / more demanding when you want to do more, like using request kits, become SL or even commander. When you want to use real tactics, etc, etc.

Steep learning curve =/= noob unfriendly

.75 to .8 will be a big learning curve for everyone.. i enjoy it personally

'[R-DEV wrote:AfterDune;787088']Oh give me a break. Are you now comparing the "learning curve" of Unreal 2004 with PR?

If you are willing to learn the game, you'll manage just fine. Yes, it's hard, but it's not unfriendly. Playing the basics of the game is simple actually (I'm talking about the "rules"). It gets harder / more demanding when you want to do more, like using request kits, become SL or even commander. When you want to use real tactics, etc, etc.

Steep learning curve =/= noob unfriendly

Anybody can will themselves to do anything. I once willed myself to learn how to ride a unicycle, that doesn't mean it wasn't hard as balls, and hard on my balls.

Steep learning curve = noob unfriendly.

It's really quite a simple equation. Get out of your subjectivity and your love for this mod. Just think about it....

Just because there's a manual and some people help, doesn't mean that it's still not complicated as hell

The shear fact that we have to learn and experience so much just to be decent is everything that "noob-unfriendly" is.

Let's try to set a control for this hypothetical...

Noob x is a random person with a random PC and a random amount of gaming skill (with a max skill not exceeding something ridiculous)

Noob x, has never played an FPS in his life. Noob x plays y (any FPS besides PR) Noob x does as well as he does.

Noob x plays z(PR) Noob x has no mic or it's not set up....has no idea where the hell he is or where hes going, keeps getting kicked because hes not in a squad, has no idea why his gun is shooting ten meters to the left, cannot even get 1 kill because of it....I mean c'mon, am I speaking in some other language here?

I know that I assumed how Noob x would do, but that's to prove my point, and we all know how well people do the first time they play this game.

If noob x reads the manual, from start to finish, noob x has done something out of the ordinary when compared to most other FPS's, and that need to read a large .pdf document just to have an IDEA of how to play proves my point that this game is not noob-friendly.

I really would like to see a counter-argument that proves me wrong...until then....I am the winner of this thread.

Just so we're clear though, theres a difference between PR being noob unfriendly[something we can prolly agree on to an extent] and the COMMUNITY being noob unfriendly, which , as I agree with Masaq, is unacceptable.

The game is difficult, as Afterdune said, to do more complex things but the basics of the game remain the same.

But just because the game is difficult doesnt mean the community needs to be dicks

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