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Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-02 22:11
by Phoenix.86
Defiyur wrote:So 2 Iraq maps is too much? One is marines vs insurgents the other Brits vs ins. The loadout & locations are different. Why not just have 1 map since every map at its core is just guys with guns killing other guys with guns? Is PR a grocery store with limited shelf space and it needs to get out old milk before it expires or something? Do people not realize what goes in to making maps/factions etc? Imagine you made a masterpiece painting then some guy comes along and says "um yeah we already have one of those" and tears your painting up.
listen to the man
+1 to marines on fallujah
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-02 22:12
by Rhino
Boda1 wrote:Honestly I think Ramiel is a new concept and a great one, while Fallujah West also looks awesome but more of a replacement for Al Basrah imo.
lol, Fallujah is nothing like Basrah, Ramiel is closer to Basrah than Fallujah is, epically game play wise.
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-02 22:21
by steve_06-07
There is nothing wrong with having both maps in at the same time, Ramiel can be the Army VS. Insurgents(Like now), and Fallujah be Marines VS Insurgents, that way we have 3 insurgency city maps with 3 different factions on each of them! Okito, if they take it out(sarcasm) you and me are going to get together to march on Washington(and we can, we live in the same state)
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 02:28
by pvt.nouri
Why not just keep as many as possible..
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 04:09
by npsxbox
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:ye lol.
I've tested out some very recent builds of fullujah and its going to offer something very different than what Ramiel offers. Both are good maps, but in the end, no map will offer the same thing (unless its a clone
)
Eh, Jabal and Muttrah are way different. The setting is different - mostly flat sea-side sunny happy-go-lucky resort VS super hilly desert with a dusty city in the middle, the gameplay is different, the way the flags are set up and how one takes and and approaches the different objectives.
Whereas Ramiel and Basrah are quite similar in setting and gameplay. Hopefully since Fallujah will be smaller it'll play differently. But now that I think about it, Basrah and Ramiel are closer than they are to Fallujah then, since Basrah and Ramiel both have an airport...
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 04:22
by Rhino
but muttrah and jabal both have a carrier (in fact the same carrier) and hueys! they must be the same
Really, its pointless comparing maps and calling them clones...
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 04:29
by jaspercat444
Wait...
Basrah? I hope you meant Jabal. Did you bribe Duckhunt to put a USMC carrier somewhere in Basrah? I'll have to go look around... as [R-DEV]'s are not to be trusted
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 04:42
by Rhino
hehe, fixed
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 05:52
by kevlarorc
I think everyone is missing the key point here: The more maps that are added every release the more film locations we have for machinimas! Plain and simple, leave all maps in no matter how bad they are! Where's my Hills of Hamyong!?
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 06:03
by Rhino
kevlarorc wrote:leave all maps in no matter how bad they are! Where's my Hills of Hamyong!?
ye, then we would have a 20gb download and servers running soo many crappy maps you wouldn't be able to tell which the good ones are and chances are, you will pick one of the sh*t, untested maps with loads and loads of bugs, think the mod is **** and uninstall it.
Ye dont think we are going to go down that route.
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 06:07
by kevlarorc
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:
Ye dont think we are going to go down that route.
Hehe, I didn't think about that. At least the maps seem to stay semi-compatible from version to version. I ran the Khara Beta from a couple months ago in 0.8 yesterday to compare the changes from Khara to Korengal.
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 08:09
by Chuffy
Defiyur wrote:So 2 Iraq maps is too much? One is marines vs insurgents the other Brits vs ins. The loadout & locations are different. Why not just have 1 map since every map at its core is just guys with guns killing other guys with guns? Is PR a grocery store with limited shelf space and it needs to get out old milk before it expires or something? Do people not realize what goes in to making maps/factions etc? Imagine you made a masterpiece painting then some guy comes along and says "um yeah we already have one of those" and tears your painting up.
Exactly.
I'm surprised people aren't saying Qwai/Bi Ming/Tad Sae should be removed because they are just leik so similar!!!1 Woods? CHECK! A river? CHECK! PLA? CHECK!
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 09:05
by Beafy
npsxbox wrote:The current Ramiel is going to be a very similar map to Fallujah West, if not identical in concept. An Middle East insurgency city map, with US forces battling insurgents looking for caches.
So, the question is, Since the 2 maps will pretty much be the same concept (but different map - hence different gameplay), will you keep both maps in future releases or do you plan on retiring Ramiel when Fallujah West is ready? btw, Ramiel already is, and Fallujah West will be, a better map than Al Basrah imo...Basrah just doesn't quite work all that great. Plus its way smaller
wrong, Al basrah and ramiel are the same size. both 2KM
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 16:07
by Cassius
Why should one of the maps get removed ? THe more choices for admins the better. Fun maps with an unique concept (like the run on bunker fortifications in mestia) should have 1-2 additional maps in that fashion to bring some variation in a nice concept.
Re: Ramiel and Fallujah West
Posted: 2008-09-03 16:25
by Rhino
Beafy wrote:wrong, Al basrah and ramiel are the same size. both 2KM
omg they must be the same map with the same gameplay
really guys, this topic is just full of sh*t, for the lack of a better word. locked.