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Panoolied wrote:this is a retard suggestion. i shall tell you why.

Snipers all over the world go through a great deal of training to be able to shoot long distance. shooting the rifle in itself is not difficult at short range (<400m) but the further away the target is, the more factors need to be considered and the harder the shot becomes.

now, this is a game which is aiming to be as realistic as possible whilst still being a game. this means making certain limitations on weapons and kits, because in real life (which you should try sometime) at short range you are less likley to miss, whereas at long range those chances go up. this has been implemented (very well, devs) by way of weapon deviation.

back to the "unrealistic skill"

in most other games, such as operation flashpoint, sniper elite, CoD 4, et al, there is scope sway and breathing. in ANY game with a sniper rifle that is trying to be realistic, there is no other way, without an indicator, to show when you are ready to fire, bacause unless you're lying down with a rifle in your shoulder and a scope to your eye, its just guess work.

the current system, with the breathing, is a very good way of making sniping in PR seem realistic and challenging, considering what they have to work with (BF2 engine)

it isnt not an unrealistic skill, it is waiting 8 seconds untill the breathing stops.

Panoolied wrote:the snipers role in PR is more spotting and observing that all combat, to this end its been made harder to use the rifle so that the people with patience and the ability to wait a few seconds are the ones making important kills (officers, medics, engineers) and not grabbing the once-every-twenty-mins rifle and going off on their own and getting lots of kills and doing very well for themselves but fuck all for the team.

the "magically moving barrel" is the best as can be done on the BF2 engine, but of course if you just want to get your rifle and go off and get lots of kills and not be useful, this might help

Panoolied wrote:the snipers role in PR is more spotting and observing that all combat, to this end its been made harder to use the rifle so that the people with patience and the ability to wait a few seconds are the ones making important kills (officers, medics, engineers) and not grabbing the once-every-twenty-mins rifle and going off on their own and getting lots of kills and doing very well for themselves but fuck all for the team.

the "magically moving barrel" is the best as can be done on the BF2 engine, but of course if you just want to get your rifle and go off and get lots of kills and not be useful, this might help

SleepyHe4d wrote:I've noticed when nerfing the sniper rifle in PR everyone defending the nerf loves to use the recon excuse. It's basically invalid though just because a rifleman or especially grenadier can do the exact same job about 100 times better. Plus they don't stick out with the "shoot me" ghillie suit either and can take out much more people easier as it is right now.

The sniper NEEDS to be a pwnage leet tacticool weapon. That's what it's there for and that's the only way it's gonna help the team in this game. Same with the jets, you don't see them nerfing them down to be recon jets. That would definitely fail, they can't even find their own targets. Back to the sniper though, you say the person using sniper to get a bunch of kills and be leet doesn't help the team but it helps way more than the cripple it is now AND the same people are picking it anyways. If you don't like the people that are arrogant and think they are cool using these weapon systems then the solution should be to take them out, not nerf the hell out of them and just add a "pick me to cripple your team by a player" kit cause either way people are gonna grab the kits if they are there.

Noobofthenight wrote:I beg to differ, I still make kills at 1km, and it is a deadly weapon, for definate.



Take my word for it, that score is just from sniping, proof that it can be done. It is a very effective weapon, and a rifle is no way that effective at the same ranges that the sniper is.

Noobofthenight wrote:I beg to differ, I still make kills at 1km, and it is a deadly weapon, for definate.
Take my word for it, that score is just from sniping, proof that it can be done. It is a very effective weapon, and a rifle is no way that effective at the same ranges that the sniper is.

Noobofthenight wrote:I beg to differ, I still make kills at 1km, and it is a deadly weapon, for definate.



Take my word for it, that score is just from sniping, proof that it can be done. It is a very effective weapon, and a rifle is no way that effective at the same ranges that the sniper is.