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Figisaacnewton wrote:I don't like China and Japan both being enemies. No way they would fight on the same side, even indirectly. They hate each other too much, and I think Japan returning to WW2 style imperialism is a bit far fetched, even in this extreme scenario.
I think too meany country's are under everyones story's, renember its the USA, Great Britian, China and the MEC. There may be a new enemy but there is not yet.

Four forces yet so meany people state so meany other none exsistant countrys.
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Again it wasn't something going for first build... Just as the mod progresses things are usually added.

Non-existent countries...?

Realitically I think if these three powerhouses are fighting it's going to lead to the involvement of many other nations. Getting into a war with China itself is fairly far fetched with all the trade the US does with them. Second the Chinese and Japanese could fight each other...

And of course, this isn't first or even second build stuff. This is like adding a nation maybe every other major release.
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'[R-PUB wrote:BrokenArrow']Again it wasn't something going for first build... Just as the mod progresses things are usually added.

Non-existent countries...?

Realitically I think if these three powerhouses are fighting it's going to lead to the involvement of many other nations. Getting into a war with China itself is fairly far fetched with all the trade the US does with them. Second the Chinese and Japanese could fight each other...

And of course, this isn't first or even second build stuff. This is like adding a nation maybe every other major release.

now that would be cool a pain in the *** to update though.
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It doesn't seem that far-fetched to me if a war struck between China and the United States. Despite the trade relations, its a tense relationship. I think the Taiwan situation is the key tension between the U.S and China. If China invades Taiwan, what will be the U.S response? Not to mention China really can't take care of its massive population. A good amount of China's people suffer from poverty, especially in the western region of the country.
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Post by lonelyjew »

A war with China could happen for reasons other than China joining the MEC or China attacking another nation. If China did truly evil things to it's people, like open Genocide of people who belong to the falun gong faith we would step in. Another scenario could be that China goes into economic ruin for whatever reason and to not fall in on itself enslaves many peasants to work for no pay.
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'[R-PUB wrote:BrokenArrow']
Realitically I think if these three powerhouses are fighting it's going to lead to the involvement of many other nations. Getting into a war with China itself is fairly far fetched with all the trade the US does with them. Second the Chinese and Japanese could fight each other...
Until thies country's are implemented find another story that is 'update-able'.
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Well the thing about China is that they already have humanitarian issues atm. I don't know the exact details, or whether or not these issues have been solved. But from what I know China doesn't have enough food to even feed their 1 billion plus population. In fact they have a rule that a couple can only have one child. They also have cheap labor over there. I've heard of children who are considered underaged in western civilization standards working in factories. Hell your common "made in China" items all around your local households could have been created by a pack of kids working in a factory.
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Pence wrote:Until thies country's are implemented find another story that is 'update-able'.
It could progress from an orignal confrontation with China (the MEC is already plausible enough)...

Lonely China has one of the strongest economies in the world at the moment.
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Who are the Brit's going to fight more oftern?
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Yeah, but economies change. Say, China gets a new leader who isn't against child(small children) labor. Mass child labor starts and the U.S. cries out against this. China refuses to listen. America boycotts China until they turn away from child labor and demand more humane treatment in general. China's central government decides to try to wait out the U.S. because we like our goods numerous and we like them cheep. We don't give in, in the meen time the Chinese economy goes to hell. There isn't nearly enough food to feed everyone let alone recources to keep the government going as is. China forces many of it's citizens into forced labor without pay. The U.S. steps in because not only is this a social issue, but a political one. The U.S.'s is to free the enslaved Chinese as well as to destroy the central communist regieme and install a democratic system.
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lonelyjew wrote:Yeah, but economies change. Say, China gets a new leader who isn't against child(small children) labor. Mass child labor starts and the U.S. cries out against this. China refuses to listen. America boycotts China until they turn away from child labor and demand more humane treatment in general. China's central government decides to try to wait out the U.S. because we like our goods numerous and we like them cheep. We don't give in, in the meen time the Chinese economy goes to hell. There isn't nearly enough food to feed everyone let alone recources to keep the government going as is. China forces many of it's citizens into forced labor without pay. The U.S. steps in because not only is this a social issue, but a political one. The U.S.'s is to free the enslaved Chinese as well as to destroy the central communist regieme and install a democratic system.
Chapter 1: America.
I dont like the fact that China is given that 'bad guy' look. If anythink China should be defending themselves from MEC expansion and then the US wants to launch oporations from China but China does not want attention from the MEC and decides to Arrest the entire American Garrison, so the US complain to the UN, after the UN feed a village in west Africa and crash a few Aid helicopters they decide that China will not colaberate.

China is then in the US's 'bad books' and after a wile America decides to give China an ultimatum, after it has passed America attacks and this results in only the USMC being able to fight.

Chaper 2: Great Britian
Then Britian, being the only other offence drivern NATO force asks China to release the garrison of American troops after video's of the POW's being beatern and ill treated, China ignore's and Britian gives them an ultimatum, it fails and the Royal Navy is tasked with sending a force to aid the US. To Britians suprise the MEC launch an unsucessfull attack on the Royal Navy in the Indian ocean (even thogh they whent round Africa and past the Cape instead of through the Suez canal). Britian then re-assinges its task force to attack both the MEC and the PLA and sets up a base on the British Indian Ocean Territory Islands.

I would like to re-wright this in full but i need a Shiz in the bathroom.
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I say it would take a Tom Clancy worthy epic to describe how the US gets into a war with China now. Sure tensions are high, but we are WAAAAY too interdependent on each other for war.
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Read my reply.
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tis good mi glad, she'll doo fine! arhh i like thee part where yee old royal navvee almost drowns in davey's locket!!!! arhhh
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What?
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Pence wrote:Read my reply.
I wrote what i did as a response to that reply, I find it unrealistic and not very plausible that that situation could create war.

and top cat... i think he is drowning in self pity...
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JUst being stupid! lighten up
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Post by Pence »

Figisaacnewton wrote:I wrote what i did as a response to that reply, I find it unrealistic and not very plausible that that situation could create war.

and top cat... i think he is drowning in self pity...
Ok, its what sprung to my mind at that moment.

To right about Top _Cat, poor thing.
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Post by [ROC]Loser »

Here's my plot

"The Hidden War"
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In year 2023, the global oils supply had dropped to a rate that no nation can be fully supplied anymore. As a result, both US and China decided to protect their national interest in Middle East. However, the Middle East Coalition, which is a fragile one, decided that the oil supply should be used as a deplomatic/political bargain to elevate Middel East Coalition's internation influence, so that MEC can have fair negotiation with other global strong powers.

Inspite of the honey cover of the peace in the area, US deployed ground troops in Middle East to guarantee their oil interest; China also deployed their elite special forces to protect China's oil supply; and the MEC regiment stationed in Middle East to secure the common interest of Middle East Coalition. With all 3 major faction using armed force under the table, unofficial conflicts continued. These coflicts are later know as the "Hidden War".

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US objective:
Officially: Secure US and thier Allied oil production properties whtin the area.
Un Officially: Control the status of Middle East, contain MEC. Help local resistence in MEC's internal conflict.

China's objective:
Officially: Guarantee China and their Allied's oil production. Active role in MEC internal conflict's peace keeping missions.
UnOfficially: Observe US's activity within the area. Provide support for local resistence to harrass US forces.

MEC's objective:
Officially: Maintain the completeness of MEC. Eliminate internal conflicts.
Repell US and Chinas intervention/influence in the Area.
UnOfficially: No Idea.....what they are up to =_=
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Possible Maps:
US/MEC Oil Rig Protection
US/MEC Oil Rig Evacuation
US/MEC Oil Pipe Patrol
US/MEC Embassy Evacuation
US/China Night Raid
US/China Assasination
US/China Oil Rig Protection
US/China Oil Pipe Sabotage
China/MEC Peace Keeping Mission
China/MEC Oil Pipe Protection
China+MEC/Local Rebel Clean sweep
MEC/Local Rebel Oil Production Facility defense
MEC/MEC Internal Conflict
MEC/US Nurclear Facility Protection
MEC/US Base Raid
MEC/China Oil Pipe Demolition
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Post by Pence »

'[ROC wrote:Loser']Here's my plot

"The Hidden War"
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In year 2023, the global oils supply had dropped to a rate that no nation can be fully supplied anymore. As a result, both US and China decided to protect their national interest in Middle East. However, the Middle East Coalition, which is a fragile one, decided that the oil supply should be used as a deplomatic/political bargain to elevate Middel East Coalition's internation influence, so that MEC can have fair negotiation with other global strong powers.

Inspite of the honey cover of the peace in the area, US deployed ground troops in Middle East to guarantee their oil interest; China also deployed their elite special forces to protect China's oil supply; and the MEC regiment stationed in Middle East to secure the common interest of Middle East Coalition. With all 3 major faction using armed force under the table, unofficial conflicts continued. These coflicts are later know as the "Hidden War".

---------
US objective:
Officially: Secure US and thier Allied oil production properties whtin the area.
Un Officially: Control the status of Middle East, contain MEC. Help local resistence in MEC's internal conflict.

China's objective:
Officially: Guarantee China and their Allied's oil production. Active role in MEC internal conflict's peace keeping missions.
UnOfficially: Observe US's activity within the area. Provide support for local resistence to harrass US forces.

MEC's objective:
Officially: Maintain the completeness of MEC. Eliminate internal conflicts.
Repell US and Chinas intervention/influence in the Area.
UnOfficially: No Idea.....what they are up to =_=
---------------------------------------------------
Possible Maps:
US/MEC Oil Rig Protection
US/MEC Oil Rig Evacuation
US/MEC Oil Pipe Patrol
US/MEC Embassy Evacuation
US/China Night Raid
US/China Assasination
US/China Oil Rig Protection
US/China Oil Pipe Sabotage
China/MEC Peace Keeping Mission
China/MEC Oil Pipe Protection
China+MEC/Local Rebel Clean sweep
MEC/Local Rebel Oil Production Facility defense
MEC/MEC Internal Conflict
MEC/US Nurclear Facility Protection
MEC/US Base Raid
MEC/China Oil Pipe Demolition
Nope, thats waaaaaaaay out, its 2007 for starters. And no British? Have you been liveing under a rock?
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