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Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-15 14:52
by KP
johnandreas wrote:Looks SWEET! Will there be tritium sights?
If that's what's used in real life, yep.
Anyway, 2,7k seems a little high, especially without a mag. You could probably remove the serrations on the buttons as well as all the fine details, as those could be textured on by a good texture artist.
Also, a question for our military advisors: do you use any sort of flashlights or laser sights on the pistols?
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-15 14:53
by johnandreas
Capasity is 17 rounds, but is usually filled with only 15 because of problems with the spring, it becomes to compressed over time. Which results in malfunctions.
And yes, it comes with m6x light/laser
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-15 15:01
by KP
You, sir, win the prize for fastest reply to any thread in the history of the Internet.
Roger, thanks a lot. I'll see if I can dig up some references of those. Suppose you can make that, too, Exec?
EDIT: Some reference pics:
http://rapidshare.com/files/154280546/M6X.zip
Link to the manufacturer's page on the M6X:
http://www.insightlights.com/products-m6x.htm
M6X Operator's Manual:
http://www.insightlights.com/manuals/m6 ... i_rev0.pdf
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-15 17:32
by DeltaFart
yeah one set of details I don't think are needed are the slide rails. The internal rails the slide rides on, its not necessary considering noone will see it
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-15 21:01
by Exec
Glock will haz flashlightz.

Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-15 21:42
by halvor1
exec_4ever wrote:Glock will haz flashlightz.
Hope you were being sarcastic

Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-15 22:02
by DeltaFart
too bad the flashlights can't be used
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-15 22:07
by Exec
[R-CON]halvor1 wrote:Hope you were being sarcastic
Ok boss, glock won't have l33t flashlightz with lasers..

Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 05:12
by KP
Yes, it will. If it's used in RL, it goes on. Project
Reality, remember?

Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 07:11
by hx.bjoffe
Wouldn't putting a M6x on the Glock make it really hard to aim? Target will totally obscured by the flash.
In that case you'd need a actual laser, that is bringing back crosshair for this weapon alone.
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 08:20
by halvor1
'[R-MOD wrote:KP;826785']Yes, it will. If it's used in RL, it goes on. Project
Reality, remember?
Negative

Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 14:54
by KP
hx.bjoffe wrote:Wouldn't putting a M6x on the Glock make it really hard to aim? Target will totally obscured by the flash.
In that case you'd need a actual laser, that is bringing back crosshair for this weapon alone.
IRL, flashlights are used for aiming, actually. Where the beam goes, the round goes. However, dynamic lighting, while possible, is **** in BF2.
Halvor: do you have a reason for this or are you just being difficult?

Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 17:26
by Rangu
Aaah, looks nice!
- Halvor invented difficult! (

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Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 18:09
by hx.bjoffe
By totally obscured by the flash, i meant the actual m6x. It's pretty big, and if you look at how you aim with pistol in PR..? You target would be hidden behind that installation.
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 18:51
by Exec
SO...
Do I, or Don't I model the M6X?

Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 19:24
by ReadMenace
Off Topic: Tactical lights on weapons are used for target identification. They cast a rather broad beam, and have no means to adjust their POI, so they would be rather ineffective as an aiming aid except at the extremely close range.
On Topic: The model is looking great and I can't wait to see it in-game, with or without the light.
-REad
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 20:32
by KP
ReadMenace wrote:Off Topic: Tactical lights on weapons are used for target identification. They cast a rather broad beam, and have no means to adjust their POI, so they would be rather ineffective as an aiming aid except at the extremely close range.
-REad
Wrong. The M6X (and the other ones Insight Technologies makes, I think) can be zeroed to the weapon, according to IT. So can the ones on MP5s, according to Andy McNab, though I can't be bothered to double-check that. Also, you can adjust the width of the beam on at least some of them.
Exec: can you make a version with and one without the flashlight on it?
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 20:50
by Exec
[R-MOD]KP wrote:Exec: can you make a version with and one without the flashlight on it?
Yup!
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 20:56
by ReadMenace
[R-MOD]KP wrote:Wrong. The M6X (and the other ones Insight Technologies makes, I think) can be zeroed to the weapon, according to IT. So can the ones on MP5s, according to Andy McNab, though I can't be bothered to double-check that. Also, you can adjust the width of the beam on at least some of them.
The laser element of the M6X can be zeroed yes, but not the light. And yes, the beam width/intensity of the light is adjustable on most units, but it the light beam is still not a reliable aiming device.
-REad
Re: [WEAPON] Glock 17
Posted: 2008-10-16 21:08
by johnandreas
The M6X can be adjusted with both elevation and windage (sideway).
Insight Tech Gear M6X Pistol Light with Laser
And when it comes to using the light as an aiming device, it is possible! Since the glock is a secondary weapon it is mostly used from 10 meters or closer. And the light will be quite accurate at those distances.