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Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 01:54
by agentscar
Well,they're a part of the navy..That makes them alot like USMC,as they're a branch off of the US NAVY.

I think having Royal Marines in PR would be awesome..I also never really brought it up around here,because I thought they were so much like the UK ARMY,but more tacticool,and have a different type of mission.They are for sure needed for UK Amphibious maps though. :)

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 02:05
by SuperTimo
and for some afgan maps by the sound of it :)

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 02:05
by Drav
Marines dont wear berets if they are likely to get shot at......

For all intents and purposes they look like the troops we have in PR now.



Except bigger....

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 03:38
by agentscar
^ Exactly.They don't wear berets in combat.If you go to say youtube,and watch videos of Royal Marines in Afghan,you'll see they look just like UK ARMY guys,but better combat skills,lol. ;) :)

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 05:19
by Scot
[R-CON]Mescaldrav wrote:Marines dont wear berets if they are likely to get shot at......

For all intents and purposes they look like the troops we have in PR now.



Except bigger....

No one wears Berets if they are likely to get shot ;) But it's true, they are pretty much exactly the same as the current UK Troops.

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 06:25
by Smegburt_funkledink
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Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 08:14
by Rhino
agentscar wrote:Well,they're a part of the navy..That makes them alot like USMC,as they're a branch off of the US NAVY.
no, its not...

the Royal Marines are PART of the Navy, like a sub section, where the USMC are NOT a part of the US Navy, they are there own brand as such and they only work along side the US Navy for air support etc.

The main thing that makes the Royal Marines and the USMC different is the size difference and also there training program. The Royal Marines are much more like a commando unit than a army where the USMC are really just a army with amphibious assault training shoved ontop.

Its kinda hard to explain but due to there size difference the Royal Marines have to fight in a more "SF" way to get the job done, they are also more of a force for taking out small critical objectives rather than the USMC that is designed for really fighting in a conventional manner, not that the Royal Marines do not fight in the conventional manner they do, espically right now in Afghanistan etc but they could not fight a war on there own :p

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 08:19
by Rudd
A good book to read to understand the RM better is 'unscathed' by Major Phil Ashby RM.

He was a weapon inspector with teh UN in Somalia, then the RUF broke the ceasefire so he and his comrades threw the blue stuff in the bin and used their E&E training to escape.

Its also not very long :)

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 08:25
by Robbi
Dr2B Rudd wrote:Its also not very long :)
Perfect :D

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 08:29
by Rudd
^Northeners :wink:

/joke, big love to you marauding buggers :D

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 08:31
by Robbi
arrr poor show Rudd :(





:D

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 12:24
by strima
Scot wrote:If I'm not mistaken(which I could well be) you have to pass the Commando Course to support them Engy or Arty support, so are essentially a Marine, but just in your regiment(Royal Engies or whatever) rather than the Navy? Or am I way off?
Not quite, you can serve with the units without ever having to pass the course, although it is preferred, read into that what you will.

All Army personnel who's serve with the Booties are now issued a black on green commando dagger patch to identify who they are. If they pass the All Arms Commando course they get to wear the red on black dagger.

The all arms commando course is half the length of the full course but it is aimed at trained soldiers rather than raw recruits.

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 12:40
by LtSoucy
Sorry to ruin the party boat here but, the Royal Marines are basicly a copy of the ingame British Facton. There camo is extremely close and there rifles, armor and gear is the same.


Well,they're a part of the navy..That makes them alot like USMC,as they're a branch off of the US NAVY

Sorry agent but everything about the USMC is 100% wrong, the USMC and NAVY work side by side but the Corp honors its seperation from all other branches. And everyone from the US that doesnt get that the Royal Marines are SF, look at the US Army Rangers.

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 13:46
by Smuke
People are saying there pretty much UK Troops, well... they ARE UK Troops.
Big post coming when I get off the PS3.

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 15:37
by AnRK
Dr2B Rudd wrote:^Northeners :wink:

/joke, big love to you marauding buggers :D
Pah! I'll have none of that! I've read at least one book all the way through! :p

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 16:05
by Smuke
Here it is.

I know my fair share of the Royal Marines, and I do not like People saying the Royal Marines are from the Army, sometimes they hate being called matlo's (Unsure on spelling?). Anyway, Of course the Camo is going to be the same, as why would It be any different?
Scot wrote:If I'm not mistaken(which I could well be) you have to pass the Commando Course to support them Engy or Arty support, so are essentially a Marine, but just in your regiment(Royal Engies or whatever) rather than the Navy? Or am I way off?
No, One of 'The Rifle's Battalion's is attached to The Royal Marines, but only some have had to pass the 'All Arms Course' (This course is for anyone outside the Marines, but in one of the services, to earn there green beret, It's Only the Commando Tests, so it's only ten weeks)

The Royal Marines, are a amphious assault Unit, so in the ar on terror, there main uses are for mountaineering (They have been on many operations assaulting steep hills etc.) Also, their combat skills, and stamina on foot and in the mind.

The Royal Marines would be a hard faction to create, as its not necessarily the equipment, but the people using it that makes them so special.

The Royal marines, (I think) are classed as UKSF (United Kingdom Special Forces), and are not really comparable to the US Rangers (Not necessarily in skill, but in training and organisation)

The RMC's are the elite part of the UK Main forces, and are the Navy's version of the PARA's, and no they don't wear their berets in combat.

To be fair, the Royal Marines, in ranks and in equipment and how they operate, are closer to the Army than the Navy, I think the Army always regrets not taking the Marines as their own, as there such a respected force. The Marines, if Included in PR, will be pointless, as like many of you said, whats the difference in look between the Army and The Marines?

The Marines will probably the use the same helicopters etc. in Afghanistan as the Army, so except the Seaking (which Rhino correctly pointed out) Is going out of business in the near future. I think the main diffence between the Army, and Marines is there ethos, Army are more let's get the assets going, and Bootnecks (Their nickname) are more lets go in and fucking knock em cold. (Excuse langauge). Don't think im putting the Army down, I mean its my future career choice, but the Marinea are just plain better when it comes to assaulting a target etc. than the Pongo's (Army's nickname).

Sorry for the long post, it's quite a nice way to see for myself the views that I hold.

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 16:18
by Scot
They ain't Special Forces, but they are damn near to it.

To get the Marines in PR is simple, get the Ocean(Smeg), then get the Landing Craft(well volunteered Smeg) and there you have Marines.

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 16:20
by gazzthompson
marines arnt UKSF, well one company is in the Special Forces Support Group

Re: [Proposal] Royal Marine Commandos

Posted: 2009-01-04 16:28
by williejones
i think the point of the thread was mainly to ask for some uk beach assult maps