[Map] Colesberg (4km) [WIP]

[Rambo Hunter]

That looks amazing.

[Tannhauser]

Undergrowth is far too high and dense... that wont work ingame due to gameplay and performance issues.

Was the map tested by maker? I'd like to know if marco's right.. Because he might be.

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The map can be fine in testing, but it needs a large margin of error, to allow for 63 other players, light maps, destructible objects etc etc

[LtSoucy]

Was the map tested by maker? I'd like to know if marco's right.. Because he might be.

He is, its a large reason of lag and gameplay issues. As he said, knock the denisty down a bit and test it again.

[M_Striker]

Looks like a wasteland blown away by a nuclear bomb. It looks cool

[Alex6714]

For complete vehicle warfare that looks absolutely awesome.

[CodeRedFox]

Hey nice job buddie!

[vfn4i83]

Wow, nice map.

[rangedReCon]

Woah shit, that looks intensely awesome!

[RedAlertSF]

Wow, I want to play this one ASAP! Looks awesome!

[marcoelnk]

Its not only due to performance reasons but simply because the undergrowth is not visable from a certain distance... so player walking through it will think they are in cover but they simply arent.

[Conman51]

looks cool

[smee]

what view & fog range is it going to have?

Great looking map

[Rhino]

the map in general looks like a pretty good start but you seriously need to sort out your undergrowth as that is going to be a huge problem.

Right now looks like you have your undergrowth draw distance bumped up extremely high, huge density on it and that is going to lag out 80% of the systems to **** making this map unplayable. Keep the density, height etc you have right now and lowering the draw distance will mean players will think they are concealed when in fact they are lying on open ground which is very, very bad for game play as where in a realistic scenario that would put the player who is in the grass concealed at a slight advantage as he can't be seen thou ingame its going to do the 100% opposite and put the player who should be at an advantage into a huge disadvantage as he can't see out of the grass that the guy shooting him can't even see meaning the guy in the grass can not easily return fire without exposing himself even more.

Would also work on your overgrowth settings and light settings a bit more, and would also only use the google map colourmap as a base texture to work off, and paint over the top of it it refining the colours etc.

Apart from that looks like a good start, keep it up

[Rudd]

This looks like no other map in PR WELL DONE!

Getting my new comp set up this weekend, and I might follow ur example in making maps (I've been playing for ages now, but my current comp is crashing too much on the maps I've made so I'm on hold)

[Terror_Terror_Terror]

The map can be fine in testing, but it needs a large margin of error, to allow for 63 other players, light maps, destructible objects etc etc

Yeah and people with crappy computers

[PikminDoctor]

the map in general looks like a pretty good start but you seriously need to sort out your undergrowth as that is going to be a huge problem.

Right now looks like you have your undergrowth draw distance bumped up extremely high, huge density on it and that is going to lag out 80% of the systems to **** making this map unplayable. Keep the density, height etc you have right now and lowering the draw distance will mean players will think they are concealed when in fact they are lying on open ground which is very, very bad for game play as where in a realistic scenario that would put the player who is in the grass concealed at a slight advantage as he can't be seen thou ingame its going to do the 100% opposite and put the player who should be at an advantage into a huge disadvantage as he can't see out of the grass that the guy shooting him can't even see meaning the guy in the grass can not easily return fire without exposing himself even more.

Would also work on your overgrowth settings and light settings a bit more, and would also only use the google map colourmap as a base texture to work off, and paint over the top of it it refining the colours etc.

Apart from that looks like a good start, keep it up

Hi, in answer to your questions:

The ultimate view distance of the level is 1000, but the fog becomes dense enough to hide everything at just 500. The undergrowth and overgrowth view distance is also 500, and the undergrowth appears to be more dense then it really is because it's bigger. However I guess with vehicles and people running around everywhere I might turn density down or make the fog, undergrowth and overgrowth 400 and another thing I could do is really make the detail texture less detailed in areas where there's lots of undergrowth because people won't be looking at it much. Still, at the moment I can run it on my £700 laptop on highest graphics and resolution with a very smooth framerate, (actually I think I might of taken these screenshots on a medium graphics setting by accident because I was testing to see what it would look like on various settings) the only problem is I haven't tested it with other people in it at all

[Rhino]

ehhh, view distance at 1k and fog stop at 500m? that is 500m of wasted view distance... you fog stop should be around 50m under the view distance to conceal objects drawing in instantly so they fade in, that's the only reason why fog is there. Objects still draw behind the fog so your just wasting like 500m... Bump your fog upto 950m or bring your view distance down

Undergrowth should never render more than 100m, it will cause huge problems for a lot of users, very few systems can handle loads of undergrowth, but most can not.

Overgrowth should also be bumped upto the same level your draw distance is more or less.

Hope that helps.

[CareBear]

Im likeing the look of this map already! =D

[PikminDoctor]

ehhh, view distance at 1k and fog stop at 500m? that is 500m of wasted view distance... you fog stop should be around 50m under the view distance to conceal objects drawing in instantly so they fade in, that's the only reason why fog is there. Objects still draw behind the fog so your just wasting like 500m... Bump your fog upto 950m or bring your view distance down

Undergrowth should never render more than 100m, it will cause huge problems for a lot of users, very few systems can handle loads of undergrowth, but most can not.

Overgrowth should also be bumped upto the same level your draw distance is more or less.

Hope that helps.

I know that's what other maps do, but I've done a lot of fiddling:

Having the view distance 500 more then the maximum distance you can see in fog doesn't help much with gun battles, because no one can see anything past that point. However it's not wasted, the main purpose is that the player can see the grey outlines of hills in the distance which is helpful for finding your way around and feels more realistic. Essentially my level has a real draw distance of 500 for everything. Now I've tested this and usually having more then 150 undergrowth draw distance would slow everything way down, but by turning the overgrowth draw distance down to 500 (which is where things disappear in the fog anyway) I can bring the undergrowth up to 500 and things run really smooth. I'll have to get you a copy and also try it out on other peoples computers to test this more thoroughly though I guess. However you are right about the fog, I'll have to make it stop at less than 500 because it's exponential or something. Thanks!