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Re: Unbalanced maps.

Posted: 2009-03-01 11:00
by xiso
Mhm i dont know but for a big example, Qwai River and EJOD.
Both maps are nearly the same from the US and Enemy Equiptment.

Qwai River

TOW Humvee - 2
Stryker - 3
Little Bird Bench - 2
Little Bird Minigun - 2

EJOD

TOW Humvee - 1
Stryker - 3

@Qwai
The chinese got some APC`s and some Tanks (i dont know the exact number). We killed with the TOW Humvee, 30 people in vehicles. So around 15 Tanks, APC`s and only 2 or 3 support trucks.
We held the goverment office (sorry the new name is to hard ^^) and a few times, also for short seconds, Qwai Estate.
US Team had more kills and even less death .. but we lost .. we lost with 50 tickets !
Thats very unbalanced.. even the chinese got a attack chopper and can put your Humvee out instantly.

@Ejod Desert
I dont know how this will work, on a public game. The small TOW Humvee against the tank in the open Desert.
A big problem for the humvee is, it cant move everywhere.. even small arms fire from ground troops, is a big problem.

I like the idea of different unit type for each force on each map but in the moment it looks pretty unfair. Even the USMC got a Bradley on Fallujah West.. against little insurgents. This thing i wish on EJOD ^^

Re: Unbalanced maps.

Posted: 2009-03-01 11:37
by Kruder
Tirak wrote:NO! STOP GIVING THE US ARMY THE SHAFT!

For christs sake, most of the "asymmetrical" maps are really just "Let's give the US Army TOW humvees and someone else tanks!" Seriously, come up with some other "Asymmetrical" balance because the US Army keeps getting the shaft.
I thought that was the point of PR.I mean MEC had a cool APC,which was better than US one,it ended up being replaced with something shite.

All chinese equipment are vanilla ones(IIRC)

P.S :O h sorry,i misunderstood you,you also want tanks for US...Then only asymetical concept left to do will be giving USA more air stuff and giving others errr nothing?

Re: Unbalanced maps.

Posted: 2009-03-01 17:15
by Tirak
Kruder wrote:I thought that was the point of PR.I mean MEC had a cool APC,which was better than US one,it ended up being replaced with something shite.

All chinese equipment are vanilla ones(IIRC)

P.S :O h sorry,i misunderstood you,you also want tanks for US...Then only asymetical concept left to do will be giving USA more air stuff and giving others errr nothing?
The MEC APC was extremely powerful and raped all other APCs, then it was replaced by their new APC, which is still better than the Stryker. What I want is for someone else to have the disadvantage some time. I don't mind seeing asymmetrical balance in AAS mode, but it is always the US Army that has the weaker equipment.

Re: Unbalanced maps.

Posted: 2009-03-01 17:44
by StuTika
IMO, the old Fools Road was far better than the new one. It's gone from being my favourit map to just another map that I don't mind playing. Half the time you're just capturing random hills (Hill 151, Hill 162 etc.) which is really naff when there are the awesome train depot, warehouse etc areas which were designed specifically for you to have something interesting to fight for.

And the old armor balance was much better...I can't really put my finger on why...I think it's because the BTR-60 can't put up a fight against the T-62 whereas the Scimitar and the Warrior could. And the AT BDRM-2s can get taken out by almost any kind of gunfire which makes them very vulnerable - if the T-62 crews are paying attention they can easily take out both BDRMs and then the Russian AT capability is severly hampered.

But then the T-62 could also one-shot the Warrior and Scimitar too so IDK... Ah wait but the BDRM is useless against infantry whereas the Warrior and Scimitar rape so AT infantry have to be really careful...

Sorry if that was a bit of a rant I hope you guys can extract some sense from all that!

Oh BTW has anyone else noticed that the Taliban HAT kit is much better than the Chechen one?! Chechens get the little Skorpion with 2 mags, Taliban get the fantastic AKS-74U with 6 mags!

The new Chechens are a bit messed up...

Stu.