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Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-19 23:36
by Tannhauser
What is HV/ZNG? Heavy/light soldier models I guess?

The Spec Ops class does not exist in PR anymore, you might want to remove that...

Why are there two of each class? Where is the Rifleman Ironsight and Rifleman Optic?
Where is the Rifleman Specialist?
Where are the Crewmen and Pilot classes?
Where is the Automatic Rifleman class?

You stated LAT should have ''sticky bombs'', could you tell us why would that be, and proof of Croatians using such equipment commonly?

Can you give us some sources that justify asignments of those equipments?

;-)

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-20 05:21
by Amon
dont worry... i wrote that document in midnight, and i have to go to school at 5:45 evry morning to catch the train... i was a bit "off" then and forgot some things... i will complete it today...

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-20 05:38
by Amon
At least the M80 "Zolja" will be accurately modeled cos i got one home... Here is me with my "Zolja"
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Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-20 05:39
by BMF-cetniksoldier
I would help you with this if you want but we gotta make it un biased, im serbian but want a fair representation of both armies!

I have a few points.

1. We should set it in the near future to keep with BF2. This will enable us to make some cool maps on the coast line in croatia and montenegro regions as well as other areas.
This will also let us use new vehicles like the serbian lazar apc or croatian m-95 degman tank.. (fair for both) .. Idont know know whats in development or purchased outside of country too much for croatian military but im sure its on the internet.

2. Use real paint schemes for the armors but its gonna make TKs a pain because both look similar from far and both sides have the m-84 tank.

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-20 21:33
by General Dragosh
I wanted to make such a mod a long time ago...

The only thing i could ever done is the Video background when u start the game and that's it and some camo rose commands :P

Btw were getting new APC's some Patria's some of em are locally produced by Đuro Đaković and the rest comes from finlad( i guess thats were they are from)

New planes after 2012 or so we have some Mil-Mi 171 and lots of other stuff, not to forget our new VHS rifle :D

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-20 22:31
by Bob_Marley
BMF-cetniksoldier wrote: ALSO very important.Dont add UCK aka kosovo liberation army (they dont exist nemore, serbia takes care of its terrorists) into these factions we might as well use the insurgents / taliban / terrorist model,same thing!!!... serious...
To be honest what would be the point? Thier gameplay would consist of hiding under a bush waiting for NATO to win thier fight for them.

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-21 10:05
by BMF-cetniksoldier
[R-MOD]Bob_Marley wrote:To be honest what would be the point? Thier gameplay would consist of hiding under a bush waiting for NATO to win thier fight for them.
exactly, thats why i dont want those shiptari in the mod.. Kosovo je srpska! I can say the same for Krajina but dont want to start a political battle!

The VHS rifle is an interesting design but is still underheavy testing.. It is almost acopy of the famas if u ask me.. Ive never liked rifles with the clip behind the trigger but that is supposed the make it more accurate due to a longer barrel WE shall see, but ive seen croatian engineering in action ( the new freeway from split) and i seen more rollovers in two days spentthere than in a year riding the los angeles freeways ! haha serious not being meen, i saw 3 rollovers in 2 days and 1 was a cement truck and made a mess!

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-21 12:17
by Expendable Grunt
Was a hell of a fight the Croats put up; would be nice to see a main-stream game cover it. It deserves it.

M.

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-21 12:52
by General Dragosh
Expendable Grunt wrote:Was a hell of a fight the Croats put up; would be nice to see a main-stream game cover it. It deserves it.

M.
Yup, my big ol wish, Croats in jeans against Serbs as it was the first days of war xD

I think it would have a great story(more intriging than those from Call of Duty :P )

Maybe one day we will get together and make such a game one day :D

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-21 15:49
by Expendable Grunt
Crysis mod might work -- Croatia has a lot of large forests, and a lot of the fighting took place in them, if I remember correctly.

M.

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-21 19:27
by General Dragosh
Expendable Grunt wrote:Crysis mod might work -- Croatia has a lot of large forests, and a lot of the fighting took place in them, if I remember correctly.

M.
There's one problem, most croats couldn't run that mod or game xD

Posted: 2009-03-21 20:31
by BMF-cetniksoldier
General Dragosh wrote:There's one problem, most croats couldn't run that mod or game xD
Well Russian maps in PR have alot of forest and that would work, it depends on where themaps are.. Croatia , serbia, montenegro, bosna,.... all of the former yugoslavia has similar landscapes.. Cities are as urban as the rest of the world. Cities would almost have a mutrah city type feel,. With alot more of the massive communist apartments hehe! . some of the villages are foresty and some are just rock and bushes (i guess almost like some afghan maps to be honest with you is the best i can describe it) ...

For fair gameplay lets keep it two organized armies, ofcourse when it was civil war there was much more than that on both sides (and civillians on both sides suffered, wars are not fun) but for the mod it would be easier with croatian armed forces and serbian armed forces...

We shoudnt try to recreate battles from the past, too difficult! I say just find an area of 3-4 sq km with key holding points like bridges, train stations, small cities, u get my idea???

You guys want PR to have maps that and armies that represent the Croatian armed forces and I (and probably my clan mates would be down to help) want PR to have maps that represent Serbian Armed Forces. Why dont we put this together and make something like in Titos day. I have good IT skills (thats my career), modding skills in half life, not in bf2, and would like to learn this but havent worked with too much bf2 modding.. What the hell do you use to map? I can attempt it If I had the tools...

CHeck out the vids, its funny how they use american music thou on some of them

YouTube - Serbian Tanks During Kosovo 1998-1999 War
Serbian Tank columns in kosovo 1999, most of the older stuff is retired now, t-72 only used for training now all m84s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR6FsxxVvGo
More serbian military hardware

YouTube - TOWERBG - Serbian Air Force!
air force

YouTube - Serbian army & police forces 2008
serbian military and police

YouTube - Made in "Zastava"(Serbian brand)!!!
serbian made rifles many used in military

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-23 12:20
by Amon
one powerfull video showing the hard fighting in Croatia and Bosnia:

YouTube - Yugoslavian war [new]

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-23 12:35
by arjan
might wanna get start working instead of showing footage ;)

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-23 14:28
by Amon
well... i got something for ye... anyone recognizes this?
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Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-23 18:25
by Amon
BIG NEWS FOR THIS MOD... I AM PROUD TO PRESENT TO YOU.... G-4 "Super Galeb" AND J-22 "Orao"

G-4 "Super Galeb"

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J-22 "ORAO"


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Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-23 18:29
by Amon
you see... i am not lazy... i am working... hehe... and if the OPK team agrres to give me the M-84 for exchange for the G-4"Super Galeb"... then we will have something...

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-23 18:38
by crazy11
So you are making these models?

Can you post wire frames?

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-23 18:56
by Amon
no... im not making this :P ... but a friend of mine made it, and he has copyright... so i can only use them for this mod, and i can give them to OPK team for exchange... he agreed to that..

But trust me, you dont want to see wire frames...

Re: Yugoslav wars...

Posted: 2009-03-24 10:58
by Expendable Grunt
Based on what's happened in the past, it would be a very good idea not to post things you've not done yourself (or have access to someone to back you). Not saying you in particular, but some pretty bad things have gone down in the past over models.

M.