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look PR aint about the reality of Russian Economy or MEC economy so we can skip "this is too expensive, thiers too little of them". If PR included the MEC army *as their is no unified middle easter army* then we should be able to add things like KA-52 (not KA-50 cuz its 1) man. also its be cool if AN-94s are added. also the russians should get the KA-52 and MEC get MI-35 to make it more fair cuz US forces got 2 kinds of attack helis.

I really want to see the Mi-24. Id much rather see that than a Ka-52. If you think of Russian helicopters, then its the first thing you think of. Also its used around the world, so it could be used for other factions.

russian army irl uses the mi28. MEC should get the mi24 or mi35.

I want to say thanks to everybody for participating in the discussion of this theme!
It is indeed important, on it style of Game will depend in its next version.
Let us show yet greater activity!

Delta, your sig reminds me of that scene in Star Wars where the giant monster swallows up people lol

Just thought I had to say that

On topic: You get the models/code, sure. Otherwise it's unlikely to go the distance.

My vote for HIND)))

Wait is the MI-35 just like a modern version of the MI-24?

JohnTheRipper wrote:Wait is the MI-35 just like a modern version of the MI-24?

export?

I'd like the Mi-24 as transport,Ka-50 as a light reconnaissance,Ka-52 and Mi-28 as the
attack ones.However Mora,Alex and CAS117 aren't running the show here

Ka-50 is a 1 seater, but so as the A-10,F-16,Mig-29,J-10,Typhoon and (effectively)
the little bird and Evrocopter.

There is a Mi-24 in OPK,and also in the the "Special Forces" expansion
but can't be used for some reason (that I forgot)


Or perhaps the Mi-17 that's already in game can be slightly tweaked





Via code - if possible,like the Chinese apc.I have no idea if it's even possible.

Or perhaps the Mi-17 that's already in game can be slightly tweaked

reminds me OFP, there is Mi-8 with 6 pods, containing 192 S-8 (Hydra) missiles

The Flying Tank. ( Hind ) would be better as an upgrade for russian/mec forces. it is commonly used. 2 seater.. and should have a 64 2.5 inch rocket barrage. in real life.. it fires that many.. and scares the hell out of people on the ground...

It would be intresting to go up against.. and a nice new piece of hardware..They also come in a transport variant.. that can carry 6-10 troops as far as i know. it's deadly.. and would add alittle more pressure for anti air defences to work together. - delta

Considering the real Russian Army is key in this mod as, I believe, it is still called “Project Reality”. I have seen someone saying we can disregard the current political and economic situation in the factions presented in the game, and, don’t take it personally, I do not agree.

That is due to the fact that the economical and political activity reflects in production of new models, and we have currently not seen a lot of such activity regarding Russian helicopters.

Mi-24 remains the most used helicopter in the Russian army, and therefore should be presented in the game representing the branch of Russian attack helicopters. If it seems boring and repetitive, then the Mi-24PN should be used instead, as that modification is now being introduced into service in multitude. Ka-50, Ka-50-2 or Ka-52 are not the models used in large-scale conflicts and, at most, remain as platforms for investigation and testing weapon capabilities and hi-end systems. Therefore, it is very unusual to Kamov helicopters on the battlefield and therefore they should not be in a game that claims to be representing reality.




Considering MEC, we will have to use more imagination regarding its political and economic state, but considering they have the money to spend on a relatively hi-end army with Tunguskas and BMP-3’s they could probably afford Mi-28’s. Yet Mi-8/17 sounds like a cheaper and variant which MEC could purchase.

PS I have just recently joined PR so I might not know smth other ppl do. ^^,

Agreed, but we must take into account.. the hind is VERY heavy. and is not as fast or manuverable as lets say..an apache.. but the hind has a big light tank,infantry..and tank killing abilities.. is has alot of firepower..but canot dogfight with a lighter attack helicopter.. but it will wreak havok on infantry especialy. 64 2.5 inch rockets are alot.. the apache uses 3.5 inch rockets..slightly bigger explosive capacity.. but does not carry as many as the hind does... apache (32) hind (64).. should be intresting.. it also carries a TV guided anti tank rocket. up to 32.. but this would cut off the rocket pods..adding more guided rocket weapons..

A balance between the two. normally.. 64 rockets. 8 Tv guided missles.. and i believe the hind carries a pretty heavy ball-gun mounted front turret.. i am unsure of the calibre of it.. it's below 22m i think..i will research this.. all in all as ghost1800 said. transporting and covering is a big deal. like kashan desert.. i can see this going well.. the americans may have better tanks.. but they need to be FAST when dealing with a flying tank..

Well the thing is if they do add the MI-24 HIND then which version should they use because you have the classic one that uses the fixed gun that i think is the same gun as on the frogfoot which the pilot guides as seen in POE 2 then you have the one with the turret the co-pilot controls as seen in the special force expansion pack.

Personally, I prefer the fixed gun version because it has more power and would require more team work between the pilot and co-pilot.

i would love to see an mi24 hind the last time i checked one of the bss mods had one. usi has it maybe you can ask them for it.

looks like everyone os for the Mi-24, yet i strongly suggest that the one presented in the game should be Mi-24D as it is the more adequate for PR gameplay because it has bigger caliber rotary turret in the front so the second pilot would have all the same tasks as in the other helicopters. Armament includes a 12.7 mm four barrel 9-A 624 machine gun, four Falanga anti-tank missiles and 80 rockets in four under wing pods.

Can anyone who voted no elaborate on why they wouldn't want new Russian/MEC helicopters?

obvious poll was blatantly going to obvious results

NB-CO-DELTA-COMMAND wrote:Agreed, ...

Much of that you said, is right. But now we must will be choose that for us more important - absolute balance in a game or being of realism is in a game, though and minimum?

Yes, Mi-24 is very strong, he can be armed by the different types of weapon, HIND has tactical facilities, as for example a separation for infantrymen in the corps of heli.
But It is not needed to forget that it - Project REALITY mod! Therefore I would like personally, that there was the second in a game.

And I would like also, that developers listened to our opinion, and chosen the second variant - realism and presence of this technique is in a game.
My opinion consists of that for our game it would go only on a benefit.
And I see that swingeing majority from you exactly such opinion!

P.S.:
The Russian helicopters are very mighty. But... It is not our guilt!