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Dr2B Rudd wrote:This is a good server that sees alot of population, the admins are fair and vigilant.

Hope you get ur mumble channel soon, cuz I would enjoy mumbling with you guys, as well as battlerecorder (but BR isn't really that important

BattleRecorder should be operational tomorrow morning : 26/04/2009

Best Server I've ever been on!

Seriously though - We can never please everyone all the time and unless we have an admin in every squad on both sides 24/7 then we cant monitor every little thing that everyone does, which is why, as has been said we need you guys to report things when they happen so we can look into it either at the time by typing !r in global chat or by putting a post on the forum so we can deal with the trouble makers next time they are on.

With regards to the whole clan on one side thing then yes we do put UKWF on one side, partly so we can game together and get practice in for our matches we have coming up and also so that there can be no accuastions of cheating or leaking info to the other team. If theres a problem on the team we are not on then myself or one of the other admins regularly swap over to investigate and deal with any issues.

Pleased some of you atleast are enjoying your time on the server. See you on the Battlefield!

Shaolin

Hey shaolin, glad to see you have left vanilla alone for a bit

Remember playing with you a fair bit back in the days of Fear Us (Fu*)


Good luck lads

I like the server, and I agree you should get mumble up soon. Perhaps give mumble users in the channel priority to get on?

It's a good server most of the time, but I find that often it deteriorates in gameplay quality when there aren't any admins on

Not that this doesn't affect all servers, but I've often seen many a heli flipped on the carrier, or people shooting at you expecting to get a ride, or TKing for kits (though that last one's only happened once, and we had a good lol when he finally picked it up ).

excellent server, good banter and a joy to play on. Its a server that emphasises on team play and working as a group to succeed. This certainly isnt a server for people who want to do their own thing and fanny about. APC's and Tanks etc should always be taken by people who have experience and know how to use them aswell as think about where you should go on a map(not drive away down near some enemy spawn point and get hatted within the first 5minutes of the map starting)

Not having admins on all the time is an unfortunate problem, as we all have work or other real life stuff that needs taken care of first.
However the clan has a very good ticket system on their website for sorting out queries/concerns or reporting of players for breaking rules that get looked at and dealt with as quick as possible.



Mental

McLuv wrote:I like the server, and I agree you should get mumble up soon. Perhaps give mumble users in the channel priority to get on?

At the minute only players who are part of UKWF can get a priority server slot-if this changes or if we have a "mumble only night" then i will ofcourse post details.

McLuv wrote:It's a good server most of the time, but I find that often it deteriorates in gameplay quality when there aren't any admins on

Hopefully with Battlerecorder on soon repeat offenders can be delt with

McLuv wrote:Not that this doesn't affect all servers, but I've often seen many a heli flipped on the carrier, or people shooting at you expecting to get a ride, or TKing for kits (though that last one's only happened once, and we had a good lol when he finally picked it up ).

Like above, hopefully with Recorder on we can get this sorted out.

It is a shame I feel this way as I actualy had 4-5 days of great gaming on this server. It all went downhill when I met your clan members/admins.

I do not want to discuss anything, I will not be playing on this server ever again. I am aware of the several incidents that would probably come down to my ban and they all concern me expressing my views about your members and server. I do apologise for the certain times when being rude.

However you say I was in a LAV?? When I got banned I was nowhere near their spawn point for the whole round and I was SL'n. Did not drive/gun a LAV and we were taken to jabal by chopper.

Secondly you state that I rushed in a APC on Al Kufra and lost it, shortly after I left the server. Yes I did and yes I did. Whats wrong with that? I tried a tactic that usually works just that we were unfourtunate... am I going to play a map that I hate in which I would only keep playing if I was having fun in a APC, ofc I am not going to.

I don't know who your source on the jabal allegation but they should not be lying.

Many people seem to find your server chaotic in the admin and clan member department. I hope you can give the adminship to the right users as seems not only me that believes your admins are sometimes abuseing their power.

I am not going to report any of your members as I frankly do not care how corrupt your clan is. It is a shame a clan can be so unorganised and be so unaware of clan member behaviour.

As I said before I will not be playing on this server again regardless if a ban would ever be lifted, too much I have seen. The fact that you punished all of the LP clan members just because of my 'All asset' sqd name (even the ones not in the sqd) is unacceptable.

If we meet on a different server you are free to join a sqd I am in or hosting but I will not tollerate behaviour as I have seen in the past.

Thanks for a small amount of time I found enjoyable on your server.

Luda

LudacrisKill wrote:It is a shame I feel this way as I actualy had 4-5 days of great gaming on this server. It all went downhill when I met your clan members/admins.

I do not want to discuss anything, I will not be playing on this server ever again. I am aware of the several incidents that would probably come down to my ban and they all concern me expressing my views about your members and server. I do apologise for the certain times when being rude.

However you say I was in a LAV?? When I got banned I was nowhere near their spawn point for the whole round and I was SL'n. Did not drive/gun a LAV and we were taken to jabal by chopper.

Secondly you state that I rushed in a APC on Al Kufra and lost it, shortly after I left the server. Yes I did and yes I did. Whats wrong with that? I tried a tactic that usually works just that we were unfourtunate... am I going to play a map that I hate in which I would only keep playing if I was having fun in a APC, ofc I am not going to.

I don't know who your source on the jabal allegation but they should not be lying.

Many people seem to find your server chaotic in the admin and clan member department. I hope you can give the adminship to the right users as seems not only me that believes your admins are sometimes abuseing their power.

I am not going to report any of your members as I frankly do not care how corrupt your clan is. It is a shame a clan can be so unorganised and be so unaware of clan member behaviour.

As I said before I will not be playing on this server again regardless if a ban would ever be lifted, too much I have seen. The fact that you punished all of the LP clan members just because of my 'All asset' sqd name (even the ones not in the sqd) is unacceptable.

If we meet on a different server you are free to join a sqd I am in or hosting but I will not tollerate behaviour as I have seen in the past.

Thanks for a small amount of time I found enjoyable on your server.

Luda

As much as i would like you to report Clan member's abusing powers/breaking rules i can not force you to. Thankyou for your Feedback and hope to see you on whichever battlefield it may be.

[R-TEC]Robbi187 wrote:Hey shaolin, glad to see you have left vanilla alone for a bit

Remember playing with you a fair bit back in the days of Fear Us (Fu*)


Good luck lads

I remember us beating u in those days well!
The good old days! lol.

Yer, beat

hehe, glad to see you've see your senses now too

Whats your auto TK limit guys?(5 or 4)

Cause i was TKed by same guy for chinese LB tonight on qwai for 4 consecutive times,after he got his chopper thx to his TKs, and crashed,i started TKing him in response (3 times) but i was the one who got kicked and banned in the end,and it didnt looked like it was an autoban.

P.S:I reported his TKs several times to a commander who was UKWF,along with teamchat messages in capital letters(we had 3-4 more UKWF players on my team),is ther any explanation why i was the only one who got banned.

P.S2:RYan121212 if u are reading this,ill tk u when i see u on a server u little *******,especially after you pick up some fancy kit or start warming up with fancy equipment...

McLuv wrote: Not that this doesn't affect all servers, but I've often seen many a heli flipped on the carrier, or people shooting at you expecting to get a ride, or TKing for kits (though that last one's only happened once, and we had a good lol when he finally picked it up ).

I believe this is an excellent reason for having squads with named asset usage , and not only that but an excellent reason to get rid of people who start squabbling over assets. Every server knows who its long time players are and who can reliably be expected to use those assets well. Newbies and newcomers just have to get in line and learn to build the respect and trust of the longer members on the server before being allowed to run off with assets.

The folks that dont really see this may as well be banned. You dont go into someone elses house and start telling them where they should put their furniture ...

Its funny ... but its the servers like this and TG that have the hardest rules that get enforced, that get the best and the most players ...

Must be doing something right.

However , more importantly ...

P.S2:RYan121212 if u are reading this,ill tk u when i see u on a server u little *******,especially after you pick up some fancy kit or start warming up with fancy equipment...

This will earn you a global ban from ALL PR servers ... I really don't suggest it as a wise course of action. Not if you like playing PR. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[R-DEV]Twisted Helix wrote:Every server knows who its long time players are and who can reliably be expected to use those assets well. Newbies and newcomers just have to get in line and learn to build the respect and trust of the longer members on the server before being allowed to run off with assets.

Assets going to reliable players, fine. However, "jobs for the boys" nepotism is disgusting in a number of ways.

You dont go into someone elses house and start telling them where they should put their furniture...

It's a public server, with admins actively courting public opinion here in public forums...

Its funny ... but its the servers like this and TG that have the hardest rules that get enforced, that get the best and the most players ...

Says who? I pick my servers solely based on the current population and latency, and not only do I notice no correlation between officiousness and the average skill-level; I also have a lot more fun on the more laid-back servers too.

As for UKWF, I've yet to have a problem with it - although I really miss it having mumble, so I tend to go for one of the others. I'll try dropping in when there's more admins on (I tend to play antisocial hours to avoid local network congestion) and maybe give some feedback.

Ace42 wrote: It's a public server, with admins actively courting public opinion here in public forums...

I wasn't referring to on here.

I was referring to the fact that it is up to server owners and admins how they chose to run their servers. You either like it ... or if you don't ... well there are plenty of other choices. Arguing with server admins on their server about how things should be run is highly likely to get a kick or a ban ... its common sense. However that is a rare commodity these days ...

Says who? I pick my servers solely based on the current population and latency, and not only do I notice no correlation between officiousness and the average skill-level;

Says I. Its something I (and others) have noticed for a long long time. The more officious servers (which are fair) are the fuller ones, and they are also the ones with the better teamwork and teamplay (probably because all the idiots and argumentative fools are banned and never get back).

I also have a lot more fun on the more laid-back servers too.

Everyone is free to find their own level of gaming ... but the majority of the public seem to like the ones where idiots get spanked. That's why they are full nearly 24/7.

[R-DEV]Twisted Helix wrote:Every server knows who its long time players are and who can reliably be expected to use those assets well. Newbies and newcomers just have to get in line and learn to build the respect and trust of the longer members on the server before being allowed to run off with assets.

Its pretty tough to earn the respect when you never get a chance to show what you can do with a Helicopter for example.

Also if you consider playing Squadleader then you should expect to be ordered around whereever (forgot his name) is playing admin. Not much room for independant thinking. Threatning with ban if you dont follow orders from the admin is seen a few times., and by admin im not referring to the commander or squadleaders but regular player with ukwf tag.

I was in an apc squad and our squadleader got kicked for trying to flank an enemy position (okay the detour might have been quite far, but mainly because of the mountain that was in our way) and the only way up was guarded by enemy apc's.
The SL was the driver so we had to roll back to main without a gunner wich ofcourse ended up in us beeing blown up on the way.

Mostly the expirence on the server has been good though....apart from these few incidents ive mentioned. The random people on the server make a good effort for the team and teamkilling and other rule-breakers don't last many secounds.

I just wish to see abit friendlyer enviroment and not the hostile "guilty untill proven innocent" policy that seems to be used by 1 particular admin, think he is forgetting its a "public" server and that people are here to have fun, not to be put in the corner by admins just for using experimental strategies.

If it happens again ill write down the name ofcourse for future refference!

Kruder wrote:Whats your auto TK limit guys?(5 or 4)

Cause i was TKed by same guy for chinese LB tonight on qwai for 4 consecutive times,after he got his chopper thx to his TKs, and crashed,i started TKing him in response (3 times) but i was the one who got kicked and banned in the end,and it didnt looked like it was an autoban.

P.S:I reported his TKs several times to a commander who was UKWF,along with teamchat messages in capital letters(we had 3-4 more UKWF players on my team),is ther any explanation why i was the only one who got banned.

P.S2:RYan121212 if u are reading this,ill tk u when i see u on a server u little *******,especially after you pick up some fancy kit or start warming up with fancy equipment...

We don't have auto kick For Teamkills, as (hopefully) they are mostly accidents, We take TK'ing for vechiles extremely serious and will ban players found doing it.
Tk'ing him back is not the answer its only discending to his level.
I'm not sure why the players on did not respond, however if this happens again please report the incident directy through a pm here, or on our website and ill personally make sure its delt with.

Gracler wrote:Its pretty tough to earn the respect when you never get a chance to show what you can do with a Helicopter for example.

With a lot of muppets out their it often becomes a struggle to take the risk of goingwith an unknown person, however every player that i've seen play well on the server i havn't forgotten. Only thing i can reccomend in this case would be to:
A)Get into the chopper squad quickly (Or make one) or
B)Wait till current pilots have Got Bored///Crashed///been kicked for rolling on carrier.

Gracler wrote:Also if you consider playing Squadleader then you should expect to be ordered around whereever a named few of the admins please. Not much room for independant thinking. Threatning with ban if you dont follow orders from the admin is seen a few times., and by admin im not referring to the commander or squadleaders but regular players with ukwf tag.

We like to see people following orders to keep the game going, but i do like to think all of our players are open to suggestions, and if you think an Admin is abusing his power then please contact me directly and i'll report it to the proper authorities.

Gracler wrote:I was in an apc squad and our squadleader got kicked for trying to flank an enemy position (okay the detour might have been quite far, but mainly because of the mountain that was in our way) and the only way up was guarded by enemy apc's.
The SL was the driver so we had to roll back to main without a gunner wich ofcourse ended up in us beeing blown up on the way.

I'm not sure why this occured

Gracler wrote:Mostly the expirence on the server has been good though....apart from these few incidents ive mentioned. The random people on the server make a good effort for the team and teamkilling and other rule-breakers don't last many secounds.

I'm glad you've some good expierences on the server

Gracler wrote:I just wish to see abit friendlyer enviroment and not the hostile "guilty untill proven innocent" policy that seems to be used by a few admins, think they are forgetting its a "public" server and that people are here to have fun, not to be put in the corner by admins just for using experimental strategies.
If it happens again ill write down there names ofcourse for future refference!

While we do operate a Zero Tolerance policy on all our servers , i hope that our admin's can sometimes be friendly , a problem we saw on our own BF2 server is after a couple of years of operating many clan members disliked playing on it because of the way some players act, and are hoping that this won't happen to our pr server.

[R-DEV]Twisted Helix wrote:--

I was referring to the fact that it is up to server owners and admins how they chose to run their servers. You either like it ... or if you don't ... well there are plenty of other choices. Arguing with server admins on their server about how things should be run is highly likely to get a kick or a ban ... its common sense. However that is a rare commodity these days ...

--

Hosting a public server isn't that black-and-white. You are right about server owners right to set the rules as they wish, but is also expected them to follow those same rules when they are set. It's like handing over a gift - You can't just give it and then suddenly decide to claim it back. When there is power over others there is always danger of abuse and rules being bent, and that's why running a public server demands discipline also from the admins.

What comes to the server here I have found it most of times very well admined. The increasing population and incompetence of newcomers has been sometimes quite annoying but it is problem in all servers, more or less.

UKWF members tend to use named squads a lot and they surely enforce the server rules in that particular case. But what I've seen it's been always done by the rules and not abused. Though named squads are a bit problematic when you want to combine some assets together and the rule could sometimes be approached more teleological manner.

UKWF members tend also often pack together on the same side, which is good for that particular side as they run over the opposite team about 90 % of the time, but it isn't very balanced and much of fun for the loosing side.

The server admins might practice the use of warnings a bit more often and not to go directly for kicks and bans, because some of the rules are not so very common.

But overall the server has been enjoyable to play and one of the favorites of mine at the moment.

Its funny ... but its the servers like this and TG that have the hardest rules that get enforced, that get the best and the most players ...

iGi?? Very rarely see it full for a long time but when it is, it has the best gaming with most of the players being in respected clans or members of CATA/NATO.

I was in an apc squad and our squadleader got kicked for trying to flank an enemy position (okay the detour might have been quite far, but mainly because of the mountain that was in our way) and the only way up was guarded by enemy apc's.
The SL was the driver so we had to roll back to main without a gunner wich ofcourse ended up in us beeing blown up on the way.

Another incident in which someone has been kicked/banned for using a tactic thats not apparent to the admins? Pathetic.

I agree with everything Luda says here, it was like stepping back into Vanilla playing on this server.