Pure_beef wrote:I have searched and found nothing. I have never seen a specialist use a trip flare, they do not need trip flares as they are never really in the same spot for long.
Snipers on the other hand are at risk of being knifed or ambused whilst in posistion/ looking through scope, give the sniper kit trip flares.
Than you got lone-wolve snipers again. Snipers operate in pairs in real life. A spotter and a sniper. If you want to play sniper realisticly, team up. Let him watch your back.
Re: Trip flares - Give them back to snipers
Posted: 2009-05-15 08:56
by {UK}Suzeran
trip flares are awesome on insurgency maps fallujah specialist and marksman can hold the highest building 2 man with trips to detect enemy entering below and specialist spotting targets i dont understand what the issue is ,sub marksman for sniper and its still the same deal
Re: Trip flares - Give them back to snipers
Posted: 2009-05-15 13:15
by Demonic
Just for everybody's information, snipers do have tripflares as in real-life the battlefield doesn't have ends of the map. There is no points where the enemy cannot cross with a little message stating get back into the battlefield. There is no possible way for a sniper in a modern day battlefield to be imune to flanks.
Modern Day soldiers use tripflares. Nothing like the ones used in PR. The ones the Canadian Forces Snipers use are laser tripflares. Usually placed on stairs in buildings to the level the snipers are on as a warning system. They can either fight them prepared fully aware they are being flanked or find a new position.
If you really think a sniper team would walk into a building without any kind of early warning system than I really do suggest you learn more about snipers.
If anything snipers are the best known asset for its use of the tripflare and the tripflare is a important part of a sniper team. Not every sniper op calls for it but when it does it can be very handy and sometimes even mean life or death.
Here is a video as somebody asked for proof in page 1 I think. Skip to 1:48.
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Re: Trip flares - Give them back to snipers
Posted: 2009-05-15 13:36
by SkaterCrush
[R-DEV]CodeRedFox wrote:I would highly disagree with that, more times then not it was a large environment map that I have sneak up behind a sniper that was not paying attention or didnt have a spotter.
Basically Pure_beef is you shouldnt need the trip flares if you play the way a sniper is thought about. As a sniper you should always be in a buddie system with a spotter. And that players main responsibility is to keep a 360 while you engage targets.
Thats just how I do it...generally on Kashan I'm in the mountains, where there are tons or squads running around, or I'm on the southern hills where no one is.
Re: Trip flares - Give them back to snipers
Posted: 2009-05-15 15:03
by Adetter
Why does snipers need it?
Their on long range,and if you place one trip flare a place,why should the enemy go right on it.?....
Re: Trip flares - Give them back to snipers
Posted: 2009-05-15 15:19
by White Rock
Adetter wrote:Why does snipers need it?
Their on long range,and if you place one trip flare a place,why should the enemy go right on it.?....
For buildings with ladders and stairs, paths with not many ways....
Also it's not sure if the flanker will even see the flare so if a squad is stumbling around going towards the sniper he can get an early warning and haul *** out of there.
And i dont think we can expect a sniper to have a spotter every single time he snipes. If i run a sniper team i usally have the other sniper in my group since a spotter usally can't spot faster then i can.
Re: Trip flares - Give them back to snipers
Posted: 2009-05-15 20:30
by FuzzySquirrel
Demonic wrote:Just for everybody's information, snipers do have tripflares as in real-life the battlefield doesn't have ends of the map. There is no points where the enemy cannot cross with a little message stating get back into the battlefield. There is no possible way for a sniper in a modern day battlefield to be imune to flanks.
Modern Day soldiers use tripflares. Nothing like the ones used in PR. The ones the Canadian Forces Snipers use are laser tripflares. Usually placed on stairs in buildings to the level the snipers are on as a warning system. They can either fight them prepared fully aware they are being flanked or find a new position.
If you really think a sniper team would walk into a building without any kind of early warning system than I really do suggest you learn more about snipers.
If anything snipers are the best known asset for its use of the tripflare and the tripflare is a important part of a sniper team. Not every sniper op calls for it but when it does it can be very handy and sometimes even mean life or death.
Here is a video as somebody asked for proof in page 1 I think. Skip to 1:48.
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Yea I saw a video, but so far the only force i've seen using them is Canadian...