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Cpt. Trips wrote:If you can accurately guess someone's age based on a disembodied voice then you have a rare gift I think you should consider allowing biological science study closely.

I can't guess actually, I like to play with clans who generally have adults as members, that's how I know.

So there

My real point was you wouldn't be able to tell the difference a lot of the time if you didn't know.

A thread of this nature usually pops up now and then...the problem comes and goes...

With the publicity PR has been getting through being featured on the vBF2 start screen, it's inevitable that lots of vBF2 uber-1337-headshot-bunnyhop-choppa kiddies will appear, also whoever mentioned kids breaking up for summer was right too.

We will just have to hope that the vBF2 advert is noticed by some players who, like I and a lot of other PR converts were, are hungry for better teamwork, and that the aforementioned sniper-whores will get bored and go back to vanilla.

Welshboy wrote:DO IT!

I know i'm only 14, but I'm mature enough to actually know how to follow orders and not be a complete retard ingame. It just annoys me when I get called a noob just because of my voice/age even though I'm probably more mature than the guy who even called me it.

QFT I've had the pleasure of playing with Welshy a few times and he's a great player despite being (relatively) young. I myself am only 16 but I try my utmost to follow orders and generally not be an asshat, even if I'm not very good at actually owning the enemy.

Dr2B Rudd wrote:Seems like the iGi mumble night will be well received then, will be PWed etc, details to follow very very soon

Yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes I will be there like a shot!

Just got Mumble and it's very promising.

Stu.

wuschel wrote: ... or use the in-game information/advertisement banner in the main menu. Possible slogans with pictures could be ( and please do not laugh at them because they are stupid examples... :

Here some examples for loading screen good conduct slogans. If the developers can use them, I am glad to modify them or give the source files. The pictures are taken from the 0.85 screenshot section and have been modified.

Bainwalker wrote:honestly if I had my way I'd bar anyone under 18 from playing... but I know that won't happen. Nothing worse than mouthy kids trying to bark orders.

I know it may not go away, sorry for the repeat thread. I just had to vent after last night in the TG server of all places.

Not all of us are idiots. Some of us have mics and do the best we can for the team. TBH, it's exactly the kind of people you're talking about that drive players like me (I'm 16) away from vBF2. Shooting 'tards gets boring really fast, especially when your own team kills you more than the enemy does.

When I was a kid, I often wanted to join the "grownups" (teens and young adults) in their games. Sometimes they would allow me, and other times they wouldn't. How I responded to being denied often depended on the response I got from the "grownups".

As an adult, I led a young Scout troop (Webelos, ages 9 - 10). Best kids I ever had the opportunity to teach - even my "tards" were team players. They responded very readily to leadership by example.
But this isn't about me.....

Having read most of the threads, I can only conclude that there's a lot of immaturity going around; perhaps because we're short on older online players. When a man complains that he is irritated by the sound of a youngsters voice, I say the man has a problem. If some kid is bouncing around on a map acting like an arse, he's probably in need of attention. Admin knows a lot of good leaders, both young and a little older. Perhaps if these leaders can be encouraged to voluntarily take on one or two "arses" and put them in well-led yet under-manned squad, these "arses" can be turned into lean, mean, fighting machines; conversely, if they keep acting up, well, punishment delayed is justice denied - they should be kicked off for the DAY. The next ban should be 30 days, and the third time should mean your ip is gone for good. Period.

Bad players should not be tolerated by either side on a contested field - such players should be open targets, given to having to re-spawn so often that they make themselves disappear even before Admin gets involved. Commanders should be able to communicate with each other when such offenses are committed, so that they may notify their platoon leaders.

With summer coming on, I'm glad that Bainwalker resurrected this topic. Gives the good people/members of PR time for some constructive planning and preparation.........



P.S. Dittos the NoBama, kiddo!

Would be awesome if there were some kind of way to make it so only people with mics could download the game. Like some kind of voice test.

Yes but:

What if
What if...
What if it was impossible (or too hard idk)

Imo , i think this wave of vbf2 players is good. The one who are interested will be owned just like every newbies but they will be interested on how is it possible to kick *** like that. And they will come here on the forum just like i did on my first time.

The other will just go back to their CSS , halo or bf2.

I'm 18 now but I've been gaming for a very long time. Back then, players who were older never had problems dealing with me. I guess what I'm trying to say is that some players out there 18, 17, 16, or younger, are aware of what others expect from them. I have a couple of kids in my clan that are way younger than me (I believe the youngest Jr is in the 8th grade) who can play without any SL or any member trying to babysit them.

Yes they can be annoying sometimes, but what better way to improve their in-game maturity than playing in PR?

Wow so I have to be 18+ to play a video game? I have played with 12 year old team players before tbh. I just think that .85 targeted the wrong people. The VBF2 advertisement was the worst idea ever. Before to know about PR you had to google BF2 reality mods, or look it up on youtube. So people who wanted to play the mod wanted a reality/teamwork experience. So we got our "target" audience. However advertising PR in VBF2 you made all the noobs interested, and you attracted the wrong type of people.
Once my personal life calms down, I will look for a serious clan to game with. Maybe that will make my PR experience better

vBF2 advert wasn't even the Dev's idea I don't think, and I'm certain the picture of the A-10 over Basrah certainly wouldn't have been selected. Don't worry, this kind of stuff happens, just wait for it all to cool down and it will all be back to normal. Even better, release the new version on the forums only so only people who care can have it.

Bainwalker wrote:I agree, I curse in this game, I play to have fun and not feel like I am babysitting.

I've never met a kid who hasn't claimed to be "mature" either

omg this guy is a gentleman and a scholar what a genius comment

i wouldnt care if any 3 year olds played pr

ONLY IF

• they are not smacktards (includes wasting assets and lonewolfing)
• dont whine, (i dont want to hear your problems)
• follow orders from CO and SL
• (If they have mics) speak in a understandable voice, i dont care if its squeeky or high pitched so much just be aware and lower your audio input options as needed

other than that, If you can follow this set, I personally encourage all age groups to pr

I definantly dont want this mod to turn into anything like vBF2. I only justr found this mod (yes starting up vBF2) and am loving the tactics and team work.

One thing that frustrates me is squads that dont talk, i think a mic is a must realy.

Look how new i am, second post=P.

I am just reading a couple posts from page 1 and haven't read page 2 or above yet so excuse me if somebody already argued this point but what does age or maturity have to do with lack of team-work, wasting assets or not having microphones?

I have been gaming for over 8-9 years and have been in many clans in many games and have encountered many kids over the years. Sure there is a lot of immaturity in those ages but I have met a lot of very mature kids as well. Some even more mature than most adults I encounter. Most kids I meet in PR are tactical and understand the importance of it. Same with team-work and have a microphone. My only problem with them is those that are going through puberty and have those really annoying screachy voices like everytime they talk something inside in putting there nails on a chalk board.

As for the original comment, I am tierd of asset wasters too and people who don't understand the importance of teamwork. Probally most of the veterens in PR were once like that unti'll they learned it. I learned in a couple of years ago in Call of Duty 2 and Partly in MoH:AA when the idea of Tactical and Realistic game-play was just being born. With no realism games out. People just picked popular games, added very strict rule sets and sometimes made there own mini-mods for there servers to present the realism.

The only way to stop un-project reality game-play is to teach the new guys the ropes. I personally see new players coming to PR as a good thing. Brings more players to play with and possibly more clans being formed. As soon as they learn how to play and use assets. They can pickup on the more advanced things along the way including team-work and tactics.

The more you play PR the better you are with tactics and team-work. I use to fly helicopters a lot of vBF2 but nothing prepared me for PR piloting. Regarding PR piloting it takes previous experience with it so everybody was a noob at one point. As far as I am concerned all noobs should be bared from training on pilot assets in a real-server and be redirected to a training server. Kicked, banned. Doesn't matter. Noobs trying to pilot assets without previous experience crosses the line for me.

Interesting thread.

Certainly a lot of people in my own clan think there has been a wave of retardation since the vBF2 ad, but normally I play in a squad of mostly CBpr! people so can avoid idiots, whether they're 12 or whatever.

I think the majority of players over 25 are gonna be pretty serious if they're still putting time into PR, but I don't really see much difference between 12 and 20 year olds. If someone's 13 and playing a mod like PR which requires a lot of patience, and they're not just in it to grief, they're probably fairly mature whether they have a mic or not.

Much of CBpr! including myself is between 14 and 18, there is just massive variation in how people take to the game.
I think you really need someone to teach you the ropes, someone soloing armour might seem like they just want to ruin your team's chances but they may only have ever played games like vBF2 where only 1 man is needed per tank. By the time they've been banned off five servers for different things they just won't come back, and the community won't last as long as it could.

Welshboy wrote:DO IT!

I know i'm only 14, but I'm mature enough to actually know how to follow orders and not be a complete retard ingame. It just annoys me when I get called a noob just because of my voice/age even though I'm probably more mature than the guy who even called me it.

Same here, except half of the people in my squads think I'm 18 or so, not 4 years younger, because of my deep voice. I have been playing a number of FPS' for 3+ years, so I know tactics, not to mention my pro (now a bit rusty) paintball skillz (played for a year and a half, played a LOT, especially with older guys, and some of my step brother's military friends). Even though sometimes I talk a bit much, I go medic if no one goes, I do what squadie asks, though sometimes I take the sniper kit just to have a little bit of fun

I like servers with more teamwork such as UKWF and T&T. Passworded servers seems like a great idea for a greater experience. Me, I cant stand asshats, annoying players an the voices of children.

I play PR partly for the social experience and when I get in the same squad as a child i feel that I have to hold back on languages and jokes and everything. In that age you simply dont understand irony and it suddenly feels like you are a substite teacher for someone in the seventh grade and it just plain suck. You feel like you have to act all goody-goody since there is a child present. Isnt the game pg16? By 16 everybody has hit puberty so we should just ban players that sounds like children. The voice of a child is not easily mistaken. Do we really want to teach people that young how to tactically efficiently sneak around and kill etc? Of course it does not translate directly into skill IRL but still, it could give them some ideas. Out of respect for their parents, themselves and us we should help them find another hobbie.

{UK}Suzeran wrote:omg this guy is a gentleman and a scholar what a genius comment

It doesn't take a genius to look back on ones self and remember the days of being young and wanting to fit into places we shouldn't. I remember being a kid, thinking I was mature and just like an adult.

We are all children at heart in a sense, however with age comes life experience. When you are a child you are innocent, at least to a point. As adulthood comes and a person starts having to balance money - lifestyle they tend to mature in the sense that they realize help is help, advice is advice.

As much as a child likes to think they are mature, I can never take them seriously because kids never have to worry about feeding a family, paying the rent... the bills. Everything a kid knows is from their parents and school... and school doesn't prepare you for life. You get an education yes, but the school system doesn't teach you that the world isn't fair. The school system doesn't teach you how to handle emotional situations.

I served my country at one point, I ended up leaving for personal reasons because I felt in my heart I was no longer fit for the type of duty that was expected of me. My girlfriend at the time of over three years was murdered while I was overseas, she had always feared losing me to service and yet I lost her to a mugger. I was young, well younger than I am now... and with all the training I had I thought myself an emotional brick. Ready for anything. I was destroyed... to the point it took nearly two years to recover mentally.

I know kids will always play games they shouldn't, why? Because I would try too as well if I were them. I know I would. Do I think they are right to do so? No, I think they should stay away like they are suppose to. However if I were them I'd be in this thread likely sticking up for myself all proud at the fact I can type proper sentences and sound like an adult online.