PR Server Idea

[xatu miller]

Interesting idea.

Interested- europe.

[RedWater]

GODDAMNIT, GERMANY IS IN THERE!!!111

no seriously, youre plan is good and Im sure I would enjoy playing there and ofc I would donate something to the server.

To go ahead, it should be like that everyone donating to the server should have a reserved slot. Adminrights will be something hard, but with the mature community a admin shouldnt be needed so often anyways

[503]

interested. North America.

64 people on mumble.... wow. the awesomeness and the lag.

[Smuke]

Sounds great.

You'd have to have some system of keeping the updated password going round, sure thats probably easy.

Intersted-UK

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To go ahead, it should be like that everyone donating to the server should have a reserved slot.

Definitely.

64 people on mumble.... wow. the awesomeness and the lag.

Shouldnt really be laggy afaik

You'd have to have some system of keeping the updated password going round, sure thats probably easy.

The server would run a whitelist script when you join, so no need for a password.

[snooggums]

I have just one more thing to add to the concept.

TG used to have password nights where rules were more strictly enforced and by using the password you were agreeing to the server rules and noting you were aware of them. If someone broke the rules during password night they were banned, no matter who they were and this elite server idea sounds similar.

In my opinion, the reason that the TG password nights eventually petered out (they were previously always full) was a watering down of enforcement paired with some people posting the password in places other than the main TG website allowing anyone to just hop in unaware of the rules and causing lots of annoyance to those of us that followed the rules. This was a limitation of the password as an entry and the white listing would eliminate the 'hey everyone come here aspect'. The other part, the watering down of admin enforcement, was a response to the outside PR community with people saying TG was too harsh on the rules and giving the players a bad rap. My draw to TG was the harsh punishment for rule breakers and I wish they would go back to banning community members with tags that break the rules instead of warning them like the public. I hope your white listing system has a punishment for people that invite poor members (not a full ban but maybe another kind of punishment for not being more careful).

BTW, TG does not have a clan, they do have in house squads which are more like organized friends groups. The TG tags are meant to signify you follow the rules and are a person for a new person to learn from.

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There will be no strict rules to be broken - the people that I hope would become members, will know how PR should be played. Proven asshats will be banned instantly.

People will know this and play accordingly.

I would hate it to be a place with complaints, rules, admins, and uptight pumped players.

Call me a hippy, but I just want it to be a server where people play as a team and are nice to each other

[arjan]

A.Behr intrested

Holland / EU

[snooggums]

You'll need to post up some guidelines for 'how Pr should be played' as everyone will have a similar, but differing opinion.

For example: Some people who are otherwise great players have no issue with driving transport cars around to squash infantry instead of using the main gun. While doing so during a pass when surprised is no big deal, I wouldn't want to see people playing bumper cars.

Likewise, some people who are otherwise great players have no problem ramming vehicles with other vehicles if the situation is to their advantage, even though it is completely unrealistic with the forces they are playing (such as USMC or Brits) who have no history of suicide tactics.

And there are other players who have no issue with using planes to baserape uncappable flags, even though they are barred from the game intentionally with the dome of death from doing the same with infantry.

Really, there would need to be a few strict rules and otherwise war is war, but having no rules and kicking people at a whim would not be conductive to server population since no one would know what to expect to be kicked for. If no one is kicked, then the point of having this type of server is void.

[Zimmer]

You'll need to post up some guidelines for 'how Pr should be played' as everyone will have a similar, but differing opinion.

For example: Some people who are otherwise great players have no issue with driving transport cars around to squash infantry instead of using the main gun. While doing so during a pass when surprised is no big deal, I wouldn't want to see people playing bumper cars.

Likewise, some people who are otherwise great players have no problem ramming vehicles with other vehicles if the situation is to their advantage, even though it is completely unrealistic with the forces they are playing (such as USMC or Brits) who have no history of suicide tactics.

And there are other players who have no issue with using planes to baserape uncappable flags, even though they are barred from the game intentionally with the dome of death from doing the same with infantry.

Really, there would need to be a few strict rules and otherwise war is war, but having no rules and kicking people at a whim would not be conductive to server population since no one would know what to expect to be kicked for. If no one is kicked, then the point of having this type of server is void.

If your acting like a tard your off the list man, .:iGi:. has no "strict" rules and when we really fill its all full of awesomness.

Keep the punishment away. Maybe you N-Americans uses baserape things/suicide things, I have never seen that as much of an issue here in EU servers.

Believe most of the .:iGi:. would love to be on the list.

What most servers fail is all the rules. WE keep it causal and have no serious problems except some script kiddies. As I would say it forget the punishment it fails when tard admins enter the server, to much complains and bitching of who did what etc.

Only server I see fit is no priavet TS and so on, like some clans that stays in their little TS and ruins for all the others on the team as the are 1337.(thinking of a certain 1337 clan)

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You'll need to post up some guidelines for 'how Pr should be played' as everyone will have a similar, but differing opinion.

For example: Some people who are otherwise great players have no issue with driving transport cars around to squash infantry instead of using the main gun. While doing so during a pass when surprised is no big deal, I wouldn't want to see people playing bumper cars.

Likewise, some people who are otherwise great players have no problem ramming vehicles with other vehicles if the situation is to their advantage, even though it is completely unrealistic with the forces they are playing (such as USMC or Brits) who have no history of suicide tactics.

And there are other players who have no issue with using planes to baserape uncappable flags, even though they are barred from the game intentionally with the dome of death from doing the same with infantry.

Really, there would need to be a few strict rules and otherwise war is war, but having no rules and kicking people at a whim would not be conductive to server population since no one would know what to expect to be kicked for. If no one is kicked, then the point of having this type of server is void.

Ok fair point - the website would have basic quidelines and rules.

For example I agree with the examples that you posted, except that hitting an uncappable base is fine imo ( mappers fill main bases with AA for a reason ) It will be a democratic membership which is open to feedback and criticism, so if most members wanted that rule, then so be it.

Im not a member of a clan, and I've only ever played pub servers. I know that there's many many good teamwork orientated players out there, but also a small group of players that ruin things ( and that can include admins/clan players on some servers )

Id prefer not to have the hassle of doing this tbh, but I'm going to, because noone else has bothered and they're probably unlikely to.

Believe most of the .:iGi:. would love to be on the list.

Then get them to post up here - I wont do anything on this until I have a minimum of 128 expressions of interest.

[snooggums]

If your acting like a tard your off the list man, .:iGi:. has no "strict" rules and when we really fill its all full of awesomness.

Keep the punishment away. Maybe you N-Americans uses baserape things/suicide things, I have never seen that as much of an issue here in EU servers.

Believe most of the .:iGi:. would love to be on the list.

All three of my examples are against the basic rules for TG which is N American. Why are you generalizing about people from a certain region?

[Jigsaw]

Yeah support this and support some1 with the balls to come up with an idea like this. The recent rise in smacktards and griefers makes something like this all the more relevant.

I support this, and can probably speak for most of [DM] in that support (except Scot cos he's a definite n00b )

EU

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Ok - talking about other servers is going to end in tears - Im sure we've all played the different servers, and we know their pros and cons.

I play alot of EU/US servers, and the proportion of asshats is the same on both sides of the Atlantic.

[octo-crab]

Regarding your statement saying that players who contribute should be given reserved slots:

The only way I know to have reserved slots is to make the server have max players at 62, then when a reserved member jumps in, it kicks someone. This is why I disagree with reserved slots for 2 reasons:

First off, I for some reason dislike playing servers that max out at 62 players, there is something about that one extra player on each team that makes me feel the need for him/her.

Second, having the server kick players for reserved slots would result in detracting from the "pro" aspect of the server. It's quite annoying while playing and all of a sudden you lose your squad leader, clanmate/buddy, gunner/driver, pilot while he/she is flying a full cow XD. I for one find it discouraging when a squad leader or gunner/driver gets kicked and I often lose my frame of mind.

I do however agree that contributors should get something for their kindness, maybe they are the only one's able to invite in? Just a thought.

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Regarding your statement saying that players who contribute should be given reserved slots:

The only way I know to have reserved slots is to make the server have max players at 62, then when a reserved member jumps in, it kicks someone. This is why I disagree with reserved slots for 2 reasons:

First off, I for some reason dislike playing servers that max out at 62 players, there is something about that one extra player on each team that makes me feel the need for him/her.

Second, having the server kick players for reserved slots would result in detracting from the "pro" aspect of the server. It's quite annoying while playing and all of a sudden you lose your squad leader, clanmate/buddy, gunner/driver, pilot while he/she is flying a full cow XD. I for one find it discouraging when a squad leader or gunner/driver gets kicked and I often lose my frame of mind.

I do however agree that contributors should get something for their kindness, maybe they are the only one's able to invite in? Just a thought.

Very good point - just the other day I was kicked from a well known server whilst leading easily the best squad on the server, and at a vital time. I also agree about the 2 wasted slots.

Unfortunately, I cant think of a better way to reward those that contribute. I think really that a compulsory contribution is the fairest - £5 ( $8 ) a year is nothing really, and if you're not old enough to pay, then I'm sure you could ask parents to contribute for you. It would be a shame to stop those that cant genuinely afford it, but I don't think those numbers would be very high, and also the contribution would stop some griefers from slipping through to cause problems.

[octo-crab]

Very good point - just the other day I was kicked from a well known server whilst leading easily the best squad on the server, and at a vital time. I also agree about the 2 wasted slots.

Unfortunately, I cant think of a better way to reward those that contribute. I think really that a compulsory contribution is the fairest - £5 ( $8 ) a year is nothing really, and if you're not old enough to pay, then I'm sure you could ask parents to contribute for you. It would be a shame to stop those that cant genuinely afford it, but I don't think those numbers would be very high, and also the contribution would stop some griefers from slipping through to cause problems.

Ya I see your point. Maybe you could start off with a non-compulsory system and then play it by ear. If 2 out of 128 players have donated or if you haven't received enough money then change it to compulsory. Reason I say this is cause the TCombat server is run on donations only. TCC requires no contribution to be in the clan. Now I'm sure Scottp, and some other members fork out a decent amount of cash, but if a 10-15 person clan can do it, then I'm sure 128 players that are serious about this pro-server should be able to do it.

P.S. I don't want this sounding like I'm against the contribution, I am merely suggesting alternate routes you could take.

P.P.S. Don't let ColonelCool in, he is one of those [DM] Noobs!

[Zimmer]

All three of my examples are against the basic rules for TG which is N American. Why are you generalizing about people from a certain region?

No you said it happened on TG. TG is placed at north america, then I said it must be a regional problem as I havent seen it in EU. Every region plays a game dfferent.

Keep the rules causal, and people will just have to report players who act badly, upon no intentional TK and no going inside the the main bases unless capable.