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Posted: 2006-05-16 01:23
by trogdor1289
I would like to see a different avdangte for each viechle which gives it different advangtes such as HMMVW has best armour but is slowest, Vodnik is amphibous and normal armour and Nanjing is bat out of hell fast but really weak armour wise.

Posted: 2006-05-16 02:04
by Cerberus
Vodnik looks like its armor would be pretty thick.

Should be amphibious, like said in the topic.

Posted: 2006-05-16 02:37
by six7
HMMWV is not that well protected IRL, I don't know where you get your info from but its wrong. The vodnik is basicly a smaller APC meant to be more economic and faster than a standard BTR. It is usually armoed iwth a 14.5 mm cannon which makes it more similar to an LAV than a HMMWV. Floating vodniks FTW!

Posted: 2006-05-19 04:28
by Wheelman56
I was thinking it'd be nice if the vehicles could go at their respective real life speeds aswell. Maybe impliment some sort of gear system in the game so that people aren't going full speed all the time. I know the reason that the cars don't have a realistic speed because you'd have to tap the go button to keep it going slow enough to handle it. But if there was some gear system you could just kick it down a gear to slow it down or something like that. Since not many people have a pedal for BF2 or use a joystick throttle for driving the cars. Just an idea. :D

Posted: 2006-05-19 04:51
by Eddie Baker
six7 wrote:HMMWV is not that well protected IRL, I don't know where you get your info from but its wrong. The vodnik is basicly a smaller APC meant to be more economic and faster than a standard BTR. It is usually armoed iwth a 14.5 mm cannon which makes it more similar to an LAV than a HMMWV. Floating vodniks FTW!
14.5mm KPV is approaching an automatic cannon both in caliber and firepower, but is still classified as a heavy machinegun. And it also is still a contender. :)

The up-armored HMMWVs (M1113, M1114, M1116) have okay small arms and airburst protection, but not so good mine and IED protection. Heavy machineguns will perforate them. And of course, direct fire from AT weapons renders them . . . really fucked up. :tired:

The Vodnik really is an interesting vehicle; it reminds me of a modular BRDM or Saxon. More the BRDM because of its ability to swim. I think the Vodnik may be propelled by its tires in the water, but not sure.

Posted: 2006-05-19 08:58
by BigEd88
The HMMWV is able to cross smal streams and what not, thats what the "tube" towards rear of the hood either on the passenger side and the extended muffler is for:
http://imageserver.gaming-networks.net/ ... render.jpg

Posted: 2006-05-19 09:09
by Top_Cat_AxJnAt
Well if they make the Vodnick amphibious, this requiring a whole new model with a door at the rear.
You might as well go model an armoured humvee.

Posted: 2007-06-19 22:06
by youm0nt
Sorry for the bump, but what will the devs make the Vodink amphipious in future versions? In the 0.6 open beta, the Vodniks aren't amphibious and this thread was made a little over a year ago. Will the devs make the new model of the Vodnik just for this? Also about having the advantages/disadvantages of each faction's jeep.

Posted: 2007-06-19 22:10
by Bob_Marley
It'll happen when they remodel the heavy jeeps.

Which wont happen for a very, very long time.

Posted: 2007-06-19 22:19
by DarkTalon
BigEd88 wrote:The HMMWV is able to cross smal streams and what not, thats what the "tube" towards rear of the hood either on the passenger side and the extended muffler is for:
http://imageserver.gaming-networks.net/ ... render.jpg
thats called a snorkel :wink:

Posted: 2007-06-19 22:19
by Mongolian_dude
Jabal Carrier rape, where we come!

...mongol...

Posted: 2007-06-19 22:24
by 77SiCaRiO77
any diference from the apc rape in jabal?

Posted: 2007-06-19 22:32
by Bob_Marley
'[R-MOD wrote:Mongolian_dude']Jabal Carrier rape, where we come!

...mongol...
It'd make Jebal a damn site more fun that it is when such a situation crops up as it is now.

Posted: 2007-06-19 23:25
by Desertfox
Pence wrote:The Sweedish S-Tank's have the ability to cross river's with a 'shower curtain' attachment.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YZ1seG7MHZU

1:40 - 2:00

Posted: 2007-06-20 00:35
by DarkTalon
it would be hard for the vodnik to get at a good angle to shoot guys on the carrier, woulden't be that much of a problem, unless they found the back door :-(

Posted: 2007-06-20 00:44
by youm0nt
Plus with the two CIWS's on the carrier, the Vodnik and passengers will pretty much be swiss cheese.

Posted: 2007-06-20 00:48
by ArmedDrunk&Angry
Jabal doesn't have CIWS and even on oman you are assuming that those turrets will be manned at all times.
The chinese tank can wade underwater too i believe.

Posted: 2007-06-20 01:58
by Zrix
Desertfox wrote:
Pence wrote: The Sweedish S-Tank's have the ability to cross river's with a 'shower curtain' attachment.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YZ1seG7MHZU

1:40 - 2:00
Well, the S-Tank(Stridsvagn 103) actually floats on the water, not driving on the bottom like that.
It should be noted that it's from the 50's, so it's not comparible in any other way.

Short documentary about it on YouTube; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fARGfVA7Mm8.

Posted: 2007-06-20 06:50
by Longbow*
By the way , Vodnik is acutally equiped with a BRDM's turret , not just open MG with shield

Posted: 2007-06-20 07:11
by -=ToD=-KNIFE
Hmmm Poor Chinese, as they said not Everything must be a balance and Not everyone should have the Same so why not Give the Chinese Somthing New that Could Maybe Aid the Poor Old Nanjang? And the Vodnick is like Between Being a Jeep and a Light APC, It should if it was Truely Like its Real life Partner Be Feared.