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Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 08:32
by J.Burton[EEF]
mike653048 wrote:well you DEVS are trying to make a mod thats based off reality and one of those things that make it closer to reality is good sounds yo. :)

and yeah cheditor i know the cobra has a 25mm cannon and apache has 30mm thats why i said in my original post the cobra would be a little different, the ones in the video are for the apache i just put the sounds on the cobra for testing. but you get the picture.
A little different? Dude..

AH-1Z - 20 mm M197 Gatling gun (a rotating set of barrels in lamens terms)
AH-64D - 30mm M230 cannon

Cobras gun is a fast ripping sound where as the M230 is a slower dull crack

they sound >>>>>>>>NOTHING<<<<<<<< alike.

M197 Gatling gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
M230 Chain Gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 08:33
by UncleSmek
Dude you cant judge sounds by those videos. Think like this. The sound is happening on the outside and the camera cant pick up every single sound a human ear can, remember that.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ksq43zrVJP8&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ksq43zrVJP8&hl=sv&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/youtube]

That would be the best quality i've heard.

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 08:33
by mike653048
my bad but still though

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 08:35
by mike653048
[R-DEV]Masaq wrote:Yeah, it does. Audio gets compressed (badly compressed) via YouTube. We've never used any audio in PR that's come from YT because it sounds godawful ingame.

then how can you explain the current sounds theyre using now?
and also theyre using it for EVERY attack chopper, cobra, apache, i forgot the mec chopper... and i never play as chinese

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 08:43
by J.Burton[EEF]
P2KK wrote:Dude you cant judge sounds by those videos. Think like this. The sound is happening on the outside and the camera cant pick up every single sound a human ear can, remember that.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ksq43zrVJP8&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ksq43zrVJP8&hl=sv&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/youtube]

That would be the best quality i've heard.
THAT - is the fast "ripping" sound I'm talking about. Still slightly different though as that's a Blackhawk.. lol.. Probably a GAU-19 or something.

One thing I do have to say about the gun (and missile/rocket) sounds is that they are all far too quiet in PR - not when you're in the aircraft itself but when you're on the ground with one nearby. Same applies for tanks - IRL you get concussion if you stand near a thank when it's firing, in PR not even so much as suppression effect.

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 08:45
by mike653048
are you sure thats from a cobra??

that doesnt sound like a 25mm

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 09:02
by MaxBooZe
mike653048 wrote:are you sure thats from a cobra??

that doesnt sound like a 25mm
If so it doesnt sound like a 30mm At all..

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 09:08
by mike653048
MaxBoZ wrote:If so it doesnt sound like a 30mm At all..
nah i hear some 30mm in there like right after the camera switches to the building and the FFARS are completey FUBARing the building, right after that i hear 30mm

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 09:24
by Solid Knight
The Mi-28 uses the same exact gun as the BTR-90. They should sound the same.

And yeah, they need to find better sounds for the Apache and Cobra. While YouTube or LiveLeak might not have perfect sound quality at least they're based on the actual sounds and not just a completely made up sound.

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 09:34
by mike653048
Solid Knight wrote:The Mi-28 uses the same exact gun as the BTR-90. They should sound the same.

And yeah, they need to find better sounds for the Apache and Cobra. While YouTube or LiveLeak might not have perfect sound quality at least they're based on the actual sounds and not just a completely made up sound.

thank you solid knight for actually supporting my thoughts.
and damn i didnt know the mi28 actually uses an apc turret O.O

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 09:40
by Masaq
It doesn't use an APC turret. It uses the same gun as is inside the APC turret.

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 09:43
by Alex6714
mike653048 wrote:well you DEVS are trying to make a mod thats based off reality and one of those things that make it closer to reality is good sounds yo. :)

and yeah cheditor i know the cobra has a 25mm cannon and apache has 30mm thats why i said in my original post the cobra would be a little different, the ones in the video are for the apache i just put the sounds on the cobra for testing. but you get the picture.
Tbh that sounds is wrong. I bet you are using a video of a camera tape, which isn´t the right sound btw.


Imo the ones in 0.86, while maybe a little quiet are the best so far.

Here is something a little better, though youtube quality.



And, not as good.




And a worse one.


Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 09:50
by mike653048
the first video the gunner sounds like he should be saying, i need to ****!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!

and also how is that not the sounds? that wouldnt make sense? and wouldnt it be more realistic to have these quality sounds since your in the cockpit of the chopper? with all the other noises to go along with it? to me it would make more sense

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 09:52
by Alex6714
mike653048 wrote:the first video the gunner sounds like he should be saying, i need to ****!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!

and also how is that not the sounds? that wouldnt make sense? and wouldnt it be more realistic to have these quality sounds since your in the cockpit of the chopper? with all the other noises to go along with it? to me it would make more sense
If you are talking about the ones you reference, no, because that is recorded with the camera tape and doesn´t pick it up as well as you can hear in those vids.

Here are some of the best outside sounds more or less.



LiveLeak.com - Hovering Apache Assault

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 10:06
by mike653048
what about inside the chopper?

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 10:09
by Alex6714
mike653048 wrote:what about inside the chopper?
See my post a few posts up.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr-suggestions/61980-holy-wow-bad-way-read-please-4.html#post1059703


Here is a vid that shows how awesome the sounds are.

Around 5:05 and 10:00.

Compare to the .50 before it at 5:05. :D

Combat Outpost: exclusive film from the Afghan frontline | World news | guardian.co.uk


Edit, imo, I think Black shark has what must be pretty close for a 30mm inside the cockpit. Not that different from 0.86, just louder/bit deeper.


Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 10:15
by Dunehunter
'J.Burton[EEF wrote:;1059662']THAT - is the fast "ripping" sound I'm talking about. Still slightly different though as that's a Blackhawk.. lol.. Probably a GAU-19 or something.

One thing I do have to say about the gun (and missile/rocket) sounds is that they are all far too quiet in PR - not when you're in the aircraft itself but when you're on the ground with one nearby. Same applies for tanks - IRL you get concussion if you stand near a thank when it's firing, in PR not even so much as suppression effect.

It already hurts sometimes when I have my headset turned up high to hear what other people are saying/ listen out for sneaky buggers and something explodes nearby. While it is true that irl you can damage your hearing or get a concussion from explosions, I don't think that we want that to happen to people playing PR :p

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 13:24
by Solid Knight
The M197 is a derivative of the M61; depending on the RPM they should have a similar sound.

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 14:04
by J.Burton[EEF]
[R-MOD]dunehunter wrote:It already hurts sometimes when I have my headset turned up high to hear what other people are saying/ listen out for sneaky buggers and something explodes nearby. While it is true that irl you can damage your hearing or get a concussion from explosions, I don't think that we want that to happen to people playing PR :p
All I'm saying is, in PR, people can stand next to a firing 120mm cannon, and just be fine and dandy and walk away. You should at least get suppression or something.
And wrt the volume level, it's just not bassy enough is all I'm saying, the ground shakes when one of those puppies fires. It just seems a bit.. "tame" in PR.. that's all

Re: holy wow in a bad way, read please

Posted: 2009-06-20 15:40
by mike653048
but when your playing PR and your in the gun cam/flir you should hear the same thing you hear on youtube videos of that quality too... i think it sounds cool tbh