Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 16:12
That's actually already ingame,
when medic bag is out you only have "FIRST AID, HERE" and "Good to go"
Follow me would be more effective when healing non-mumbling blues.
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Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 16:38
I didn't think we were going to use the existing sound files for this.Spec_Operator wrote:The context in PR might be, but in BF2 vanilla, from where the sound files come, the context is "step back, I'm using these funny shock paddles!" - And so was the context of the arabic and chinese translation, and to native speakers of those languages it must sound odd when suddenly someone says "step back!" after clearing a room. Unless I don't understand you^^
Anyway, the idea isn't bad, but I'm not sure if I'd be happy with this solution. Especially with all the new community factions - there are a lot more native speakers for some of those languages here (german, french etc), and personally I'd be confused by people using it to say "area clear" while I hear "zurück!" [(stand) back!].
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 16:57
So... no sound? Since, like I said, I doubt we have many arabic and chinese (and probably not even english, let alone all the community factions) speakers with access to high quality sound recording equipment and enough time to re-record everything...Solid Knight wrote:I didn't think we were going to use the existing sound files for this.
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 16:57
Well...i don't know but i heard there was this amazing thing ingame. Correct me if im wrong but apparently when you press B people can actually hear your voice!
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 16:58
blues Crack shot...bluescrAck_sh0t wrote:Well...i don't know but i heard there was this amazing thing ingame. Correct me if im wrong but apparently when you press B people can actually hear your voice!
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 17:21
No matter how many communication apps you have running, I use VOIP, TS & Mumble at the same time, you can't beat the in-game sounds when it comes to talking to the smurfs. (Blue dudes)
The main point of the OP suggesting "Clear" be used elsewhere is because there's already a vBF2 sound for that which PR already uses.
The only thing that needs clearing up is for someone to give a direct translation of what each one is saying to make sure all of the languages work in context. Don't forget the community factions, there's plenty to check. Then, I'd see it as an awesome suggestion, one I'm sure has been mentioned elsewhere and I've thought about using in game too.
+1
The main point of the OP suggesting "Clear" be used elsewhere is because there's already a vBF2 sound for that which PR already uses.
The only thing that needs clearing up is for someone to give a direct translation of what each one is saying to make sure all of the languages work in context. Don't forget the community factions, there's plenty to check. Then, I'd see it as an awesome suggestion, one I'm sure has been mentioned elsewhere and I've thought about using in game too.
+1
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 18:13
Having the "clear" sound on the commo rose might be a funny thing when the building actually might have a hiding hostile still inside. For me it's always easier to use voip instead of spamming/giving away position with the commo rose.
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 18:21
I've you've just cleared a building and you know it's clear right before another friendly squad runs towards the doorway to assist in the fight they saw, how're you going to communicate with them if they're not using Mumble?Guerilla_Frank wrote:Having the "clear" sound on the commo rose might be a funny thing when the building actually might have a hiding hostile still inside. For me it's always easier to use voip instead of spamming/giving away position with the commo rose.
2 clicks, "Clear!", they'll know you've killed the bad guys.
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 18:23
Yea, I forgot that the big comma rose pops up for the medic. I still agree though.Dr2B Rudd wrote:That's actually already ingame,
when medic bag is out you only have "FIRST AID, HERE" and "Good to go"
Follow me would be more effective when healing non-mumbling blues.
VOIP and Mumble have lag. My main point in suggesting this is because there isn't a delay over the mics as there is with regular comms. I've had many times when I said something like "grenade" over VOIP and it came right as the grenade blew up.Sgt.Smeg wrote:No matter how many communication apps you have running, I use VOIP, TS & Mumble at the same time, you can't beat the in-game sounds when it comes to talking to the smurfs. (Blue dudes)
The main point of the OP suggesting "Clear" be used elsewhere is because there's already a vBF2 sound for that which PR already uses.
The only thing that needs clearing up is for someone to give a direct translation of what each one is saying to make sure all of the languages work in context. Don't forget the community factions, there's plenty to check. Then, I'd see it as an awesome suggestion, one I'm sure has been mentioned elsewhere and I've thought about using in game too.
+1
But yea, I was also suggesting this because it would seem like an easy fix/implimentation since there maybe already a sound ingame for it. It would also help with players not in your squad who don't have/use mumble and non VOIPers, or broke mics.
If I go running into a building and clear the top floor out, it would be much easier to say "clear" on the comma rose so that the rest of my squad doesn't come in to clear the top as well, saving time. It seems like an insignificant amount of time, but anything helps. With lag from VOIP and Mumble (I assume), it would say time as well as help with other people not in your squad or non VOIPers. They still exist you know.Guerilla_Frank wrote:Having the "clear" sound on the commo rose might be a funny thing when the building actually might have a hiding hostile still inside. For me it's always easier to use voip instead of spamming/giving away position with the commo rose.
^^^This.Sgt.Smeg wrote:I've you've just cleared a building and you know it's clear right before another friendly squad runs towards the doorway to assist in the fight they saw, how're you going to communicate with them if they're not using Mumble?
2 clicks, "Clear!", they'll know you've killed the bad guys.
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 18:28
00SoldierofFortune00 wrote:With lag from VOIP and Mumble (I assume)
Mumble has almost no lag at all, it's impressive. If you've not used mumble yet, I'm going to slap you again.
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 18:44
I downloaded it, just too lazy to install it lol. Its much easier to find VOIP players IMO. I am going to try it out one of these days though.Sgt.Smeg wrote:
Mumble has almost no lag at all, it's impressive. If you've not used mumble yet, I'm going to slap you again.
Still though, this suggestion would still help those without mics, VOIP, and players not in your squad. If its an easy impliment, why not?
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 18:48
I'd like to see something for pilots that says "GIVE AN EFFIN GRID FFS!"
So when someone just shouts Lasing Target, I can shout back at them to give a grid.
So when someone just shouts Lasing Target, I can shout back at them to give a grid.
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 18:51
Guys, I don't want to ruin the fun, but I've yet to see a solution for the language problem, especially when more common languages are added through the community mods. Are you really suggesting to record new sounds? How? Who?
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 19:02
Spec_Operator, can you give us a direct translation into English from the German medic "Clear" samples, or whatever he says, just to get us started?
Have you heard the German medic in BF2?
Have you heard the German medic in BF2?
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 19:05
Yes, I have in OPK. If I remember correctly, he says "Zurück!" meaning "Back!". That would make no sense when clearing a room at all, it would even sound like a warning of some kind.
Edit: Just started it up to check again, and yes, it's "back".
Edit: Just started it up to check again, and yes, it's "back".
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 19:17
There we go, I was worried about that. 
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-06 19:19
I actually like the idea, but it would only work out in english (and maybe in another language too, dunno) sadly.
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-07 11:24
Well, there's still many vBF2 sounds that aren't fully used. I originally had the idea of using a sample from the commanders voice for "A vehicle is on the way" and that sounds ok when other soldiers say it.
Isn't there a sample that says something like "Area secure" when you cap a flag, what about that? I can't remember exactly what he says.
Isn't there a sample that says something like "Area secure" when you cap a flag, what about that? I can't remember exactly what he says.
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-07 11:38
Hmm... The commander voice says stuff like "area secure" indeed. Dunno how usable that is - the messages are usually quite long too, "Position clear and under control, good work men!" I guess you could cut that to "Position clear-" but you'd have to do it with russian, arabic and chinese too of course.
Re: "Clear" Should be on the Comma Rose
Posted: 2009-08-07 17:58
That's a good idea. Aren't there already Russian, Arabic, and Chinese voices for that ingame? If there are, that would work pretty well.Spec_Operator wrote:Hmm... The commander voice says stuff like "area secure" indeed. Dunno how usable that is - the messages are usually quite long too, "Position clear and under control, good work men!" I guess you could cut that to "Position clear-" but you'd have to do it with russian, arabic and chinese too of course.