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Posted: 2006-05-26 01:14
by hop_ic
one thing that makes that gun great is that they are super accurate because the weight is in the back of the ggun instead of the front.

Posted: 2006-05-26 01:22
by Cerberus
If the IDF were implemented, I'd love to see the TAR-21 in Project Reality.

Posted: 2006-05-26 07:47
by Zepheris Casull
{WP}Paas: and why is Israel out of the picture for a future war scenario? they've been in constant fighting for almost half a century now.

in the current scope of the PR plan that i've read, the british is going in first of course, but once that's done a new army addition would open choice for whichever army that could realistically fight an open conventional warfare.
Especially with you have the Enfield family of rifles which follows the same basic design principle (bullpup).
And because we have one bulpup weapon in the hand of the british we can't have a bulpup weapon in the hand of the israel???? ur comment puzzles me. Would u say that we should take out the AK101 because it's a full length rifle and the US are using M16 which are full length rifle as well then?

Posted: 2006-05-26 07:53
by the.ultimate.maverick
Israel would be an interesting development but the US would insert so quickly, and plus would Isreal stay off the nuclear trigger

Posted: 2006-05-26 08:09
by Zepheris Casull
i don't know....

the last time syria, egypt and the arab coalition assaulted israel in the yom kippur war, the US barked a lot but they were slow to respond. In the end they didn't had to since the IDF turned the table and kicked Syria and Egypt out in the face.

The bad thing for me is that ever since then arab coalition been shy of mounting an open warfare except for a few occasion. Though here's hoping they somehow become brazen enough and mount a full scale assault again... with all the equipment that have appeared in the past decades or so the fight will be a real test of modern hardware.

Posted: 2006-05-26 08:37
by Bob_Marley
hop_ic wrote:one thing that makes that gun great is that they are super accurate because the weight is in the back of the ggun instead of the front.
You mean its like every other bullpup rifle ever? I'd never have thought of that! It's also very accurate because it can have a longer barrel in a more compact weapon compared to a conventional design such as the AR-18 or FN-FNC.

Posted: 2006-05-26 12:05
by IDF-Godzilla
Israel cannot be ignored as a future addition, you got a global war in the middle east for christ sacks, its just wont make any sense not to see it ingame.

Posted: 2006-05-26 12:25
by Solitas
IDF-Godzilla wrote:Israel cannot be ignored as a future addition, you got a global war in the middle east for christ sacks, its just wont make any sense not to see it ingame.
True, but lets look at the MEC. By all accounts they shouldn't exist surely?

This is a reality mod, unless they remove the MEC altogether which seems unlikely, it might be reasonable to assume in the games fictional world the middle eastern countries banded together.

It's not unreasonable to assume a conflict DID take place that removed the hostile factor between certain countries, such as Iran and Israel, etc.

Posted: 2006-05-26 12:43
by G.Drew
i think in this 'fictional' world the MEC have complete control of the Middle-East, INCLUDING Israel

Posted: 2006-05-26 15:13
by IDF-Godzilla
Solitas wrote:True, but lets look at the MEC. By all accounts they shouldn't exist surely?
G.Drew wrote:i think in this 'fictional' world the MEC have complete control of the Middle-East, INCLUDING Israel
Open your eyes mates, MEC are all Muslim countrys banded together, i dont hear Hebrew in the commands pannel when i play with MEC, and they use Russian/Soviet hardware, the exact opposite when you guys talking about banding Israel with the MEC.

Posted: 2006-05-26 15:15
by G.Drew
i didnt say israel had joined the MEC, im saying they were CRUSHED!
overrun by weight of numbers!

Posted: 2006-05-26 15:24
by Solitas
IDF-Godzilla wrote:Open your eyes mates, MEC are all Muslim countrys banded together, i dont hear Hebrew in the commands pannel when i play with MEC, and they use Russian/Soviet hardware, the exact opposite when you guys talking about banding Israel with the MEC.
Point taken, though I'm pretty sure Dice/EA generalised and just decided muslim would be the dominant language IF a MEC was formed.

But honestly, relations between Israel and the west are shaky, but progressing. With that said I could see the IDF being implemented and allying with the US and the UK (once their also implemented).

Don't get me wrong, I was just trying to justify the MEC having the TAR-21, by saying Israel may have been involved in the MEC.
Though I can't see Israel joining such a coalition in a way that doesn't involve conflict, and if that did happen I don't think the IDF would lose, and in that case Israel would likely be the head of the MEC and the spoken language wouldn't be what it is now.

Posted: 2006-05-26 15:42
by dunkellic
uh, more like israel would have been occupied and stripped of all their military equipment (and probably another genocide), WTF PEOPLE!? i mean this are a bunch of arabians who fight the west (in the scenario), do you seriously think they would align with israel? the outspoken enemy of some muslim countries even today oO

Posted: 2006-05-26 15:44
by G.Drew
i think we need to concentrate more on the weapons and kits, not modern polictics!

Posted: 2006-05-26 18:52
by IDF-Godzilla
G.Drew wrote:i think we need to concentrate more on the weapons and kits, not modern polictics!
Its not modern politics, its BF2 politics... :P
Anyway, Israel should be involved in it, **** politics, it can have very new cool weapons.
TAR-21
Negev SAW
SHIPON ATGM
Merkava 4
F-16I

Posted: 2006-05-26 18:58
by Bob_Marley
IDF-Godzilla wrote:Its not modern politics, its BF2 politics... :P
Anyway, Israel should be involved in it, **** politics, it can have very new cool weapons.
TAR-21
Negev SAW
SHIPON ATGM
Merkava 4
F-16I
If the Isrealis show up with out a Galil i will be most unimpressed (then again, Isreali special forces = opportunity to include Ingram MAC M11. DOITDOITDOITDOIT!)

Posted: 2006-05-26 18:59
by RCRcmdo
Merkava4 would be cool... the only MBT troop transport

jsut a fun pic....
anyone seen my tank haul??
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Posted: 2006-05-26 19:06
by G.Drew
tht 2nd 1, ouch!
but the 1st 1 is funny, lol no-joy!

Posted: 2006-05-26 19:13
by IDF-Godzilla
DVB-RCRcmdo wrote:Merkava4 would be cool... the only MBT troop transport

jsut a fun pic....
anyone seen my tank haul??
You think you have seen it all? :P
Merkava 3 with 4'th generation armor suite, sinking :P
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