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Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-03 22:39
by [T]waylay00
[R-CON]Outlawz wrote:The issue with the (in-game) Chechens being called Chechens is that while you may make a map with any given team vs. Chechens, the fact that they're called Chechens means they're limited to only Chechnya scenarios whereas if they were called Militia, you could put them in scenarios all over the world.
That's still not really a valid argument. It's not like you can just throw them in any part of the world, like Haiti or something. That would be equally unrealistic.
I say keep them as Chechens.
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-03 23:34
by HangMan_
'[T wrote:waylay00;1128314']That's still not really a valid argument. It's not like you can just throw them in any part of the world, like Haiti or something. That would be equally unrealistic.
I say keep them as Chechens.
Your arguement isnt valid either mate... U havent given any support to what u are saying lol.. the reason they need to go back to being militia is so we can have other scenarios like Bosnia etc.
Chechens can only fight the Russians
We need to make them generic again so that we get the good old Brit vs Militia back, along with possibly some US vs Militia
Personally i love the faction at the moment but i want to see them fighting more enemies... Games just against the russians don't cut it. As for those saying its unrealistic for the US to fight militia... Its not! They were in Bosnia along with a massive UN peacekeeping force all through the 90's.
All the new european community factions could make some great maps if the chechens went back to being militia...
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-03 23:59
by Kruder
[R-DEV]IronTaxi wrote:
and I'm planning to push hard to get the brits back on all the "militia" maps
What will happen to the Russians then?Get dumped?
And there is no logic in any NATO force fighting against Chechens,it'll be as logical as a Mujahideen vs. USA map back in 1980s....
Final note,CATA for once in its lifetime has the oppurtunity to fight against an enemy with shitty equipment,why spoil it?
Seriously CATA should get some DEV on the team...
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 00:22
by SkaterCrush
Why not just keep Chechens and have a Militia faction too?
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 00:45
by HangMan_
Kruder wrote:What will happen to the Russians then?Get dumped?
And there is no logic in any NATO force fighting against Chechens,it'll be as logical as a Mujahideen vs. USA map back in 1980s....
Final note,CATA for once in its lifetime has the oppurtunity to fight against an enemy with shitty equipment,why spoil it?
Seriously CATA should get some DEV on the team...
Ok we are not trying to take the russians away... The russians won't loose any maps or anything like that. We just want to make the chechens called the militia so we can get some variety in the types of enemy they face..
SkaterCrush wrote:Why not just keep Chechens and have a Militia faction too?
That would mean a lot of extra effort has to be put in by the all ready extremely busy DEV's.. So i pretty much ruled that out in my mind when i posted the initial thread. It is a lot simpler just to go back to calling the chechens the militia
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 01:33
by [T]waylay00
XxX_HangMan_XxX wrote:Your arguement isnt valid either mate... U havent given any support to what u are saying lol.. the reason they need to go back to being militia is so we can have other scenarios like Bosnia etc.
Chechens can only fight the Russians
We need to make them generic again so that we get the good old Brit vs Militia back, along with possibly some US vs Militia
Personally i love the faction at the moment but i want to see them fighting more enemies... Games just against the russians don't cut it. As for those saying its unrealistic for the US to fight militia... Its not! They were in Bosnia along with a massive UN peacekeeping force all through the 90's.
All the new european community factions could make some great maps if the chechens went back to being militia...
I don't understand what more "support" I need...Like I said, even calling them the Militia still doesn't mean that you can add them to any ole part of the world. A bunch of Caucasian guys with big jackets doesn't really fit into a conflict set in, say, Indonesia or something.
And if they were to fight the U.S. and represent the "militia" in the Balkans, would they still speak Russian? That would be pretty unrealistic too, almost as bad as having the U.S. fight the Chechens.
Either way, there are going to some pretty bad conflicts with "realism," so you might as well keep them as Chechens.
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 02:11
by IronTaxi
'[T wrote:waylay00;1128460'] even calling them the Militia still doesn't mean that you can add them to any ole part of the world. A bunch of Caucasian guys with big jackets doesn't really fit into a conflict set in, say, Indonesia or something.
sure it does...we make the rules
Just think of them as modern pirates.. or the dark side of private security companies...basically a bunch of mercenaries...see...now that feels good doesnt it?
a group of mercenaries (ex-russian army) called "The Militia" there we go...all our bases covered....and they work for whomever pays the bills...

Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 10:58
by Punkbuster
The Chechens will stay but I think that the Militia will be back at 9.0
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 11:59
by rampo
I did like the brits vs militia better, for some reason i just hate playing chechen vs russia maps allthough fools road and assault on mestia were among my favorite maps

Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 12:12
by Alex6714
Seriously, there are US fighting PLA, in the end I couldn't care less what the name of the faction or where they are, it's just nice to have variation. It doesn't affect gameplay at all.
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 12:15
by Outlawz7
Kruder wrote:
Seriously CATA should get some DEV on the team...
Nub, we already have one.
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 12:23
by master of the templars
just open the localization file and rename them yourself, you can do whatever you want to the localization file and still play online.
Just rename all Chechen entries to Militia
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-04 14:05
by IronTaxi
rudy_eila wrote:The Chechens will stay but I think that the Militia will be back at 9.0
how, my dear friend...would you have formed that opinion?!?!
but yeah...thats the actual plan...
Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-05 03:59
by Sgt.Desert Tiger[TR]
You can create other faction for it.Because you said Bosnia and Crimean war and I agree that but not only Chechens fight there or in Chechnya, Mujahideens come from others country too.More Turk Mujahideen fought in Crimean, Bosnia and Chechen-russian War.So you need new skins, faces, equipments, uniforms etc. if you want more realistic game.You said them militia and you think they are unimportant for waste time work on them.Maybe someones want call usa, brits etc. invaders not only think one side.And I dont understand why alltimes these men are knowing as heroes or peacekeeper.Why only they are good men.

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Re: Should the Chechens go back to being called the Militia?
Posted: 2009-09-05 06:13
by HangMan_
master of the templars wrote:just open the localization file and rename them yourself, you can do whatever you want to the localization file and still play online.
Just rename all Chechen entries to Militia
lol thats is unlikely to solve anything because when someone else plays a community map that has chechens (renamed militia by user) vs Brits etc the map won't make sense....