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Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 01:26
by sporkife
1. M249. Laz0r.
2. HK21. Nice burst mode, nice rof/dmg/ammo combo. Once this gets a real scope, it might be even better than the M249.
3. PKM (zoomy). Easy-to-use irons, 2HKO and does really quite well at long ranges. Bit overheaty though.
4. PKM (nonzoomy). Same as above, but lack of zoom saddens me.
5. L86. Which was originally intended to be a LMG, but ended up as a LSW, and now, I've heard, is used as a marksman wep almost exclusively (I know it's a MM, but I've found it doesn't do half badly on manual burst mode as a makeshift LMG, plus it's a better LMG than #6).
6. QBB-95. Fail damage, fail accuracy, miserable fail ammo. Probably better off giving your squad a marksman, who can reach out to the same range that the M249 can, or farther. If MM was spawnable or SAW wasn't, I'd always take the MM for China.
Haven't really used the Al-Quds, so I dunno how much I like it, but it can't be worse than the QBB-95.
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 07:17
by RedWater
I really dont get what problems all of you have with the chinese LMG.
(Dont really play AR so much anymore, I rather take medic. AR is so nooby
)
I just remember when we stress-tested one ealier build I cleaned up on Seven Gates with that gun.
When I tried it later in the finished build it hasnt changed for tbh. Well, ammo IS a problem, but damage? And the sights are waaaay better than the HK21 (which I personaly HATE)
Ok, the chinese still doesnt match the M249, but thats pretty impossible really.
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 08:09
by Qaiex
BAR, hands down.. Coolest LMG ever.
Ingame and modern I'd have to pick the M249 PARA.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ropped.jpg
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 09:29
by paradien
cause we all love 20 round mags on our lmg.
I want this in Pr, Even a heli mounted one, idc , just want to use this beast
M60 machine gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
YouTube - M60
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 10:49
by Boris.T.Spider
Why all the hating on the QBB, this is in my opinion probably the most versatile AR in the game. I don't see how the accuracy is fail, deployed on semi-auto, this is a spawnable marksman rifle, well capable of hitting a man sized target at max draw distance. In CQC undeployed the irons are an excellent guide, there about 5mm out on my screen and don't obscure your line of fire like the sight on the M249. Damage fail? I have never had to put more than 3 bullets into a target to put him down, 1 in the head=dead, 2 in the torso=dead. Yes, mabey it has problems against lightly armored targets, but most of the targets your going to go up against with a QBB are open sided anyway, you will kill the crew a long time before you kill the vehichle.
Now, as for the ammo, this gun has a 100 round drum, any way you look at it, that's still a lot of ammo, obviously less than the 200 round box on the SAW, and its high ROF eats these bullets really quick. But on the plus side, you are a lot easier to resupply from part ammo bags than the SAW is, you can get 3-4 clips back from a bag that has, for example just resupplied a HAT.
The real winner for the QBB for me though is that is, more inconspicuous than any other AR in PR. Everyone knows exactly what a PKM, SAW, HK21, sounds like, they are all make a verry distinctive sound compared to the other faction weapons, the QBB only really gives itself away by its ROF. Even a visual identification of the QBB is more difficult that with any other AR, as its design similarities to the other QB series weapons make it a lot harder to spot out in a squad than the giant M249 or PKM.
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 10:59
by RedWater
Boris.T.Spider wrote:
The real winner for the QBB for me though is that is, more inconspicuous than any other AR in PR. Everyone knows exactly what a PKM, SAW, HK21, sounds like, they are all make a verry distinctive sound compared to the other faction weapons, the QBB only really gives itself away by its ROF. Even a visual identification of the QBB is more difficult that with any other AR, as its design similarities to the other QB series weapons make it a lot harder to spot out in a squad than the giant M249 or PKM.
THAT is so true, I forgot to mention hat in my previous post. More than once I was like " Okay, that dood HAS to reload now, his 30 Rounds-mag MUST be empty" ( I thought he was just a normal ironsight-rifleman) and he sprayed me away when I rushed him. Its really hard to tell in the heat of a close-quarter-battle.
okay, on middle and long range the little spread between the shots is giving away that it is an AR, but well.
However, I pretty much love the chinese AR
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 11:36
by LeChuckle
unscoped PKM is so awesome
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 12:04
by N.Kuntze
My fav LMG is the MG36
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 12:33
by jeeracht
I just wonder. Which scope are QBB PKM and HK21 gonna get?
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 12:49
by gazzthompson
dose the QBB have more recoil than the m249? (stats only, no opinions)
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 13:21
by Mad-Mike
LeChuck wrote:unscoped PKM is so awesome
have to agree there
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 15:40
by Qaiex
20 rounds is all it takes to kill 20 guys
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-10 15:43
by ReadMenace
Al Quds
HK21E
SAW
Everything else.
-REad
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-11 04:46
by nedlands1
gazzthompson wrote:dose the QBB have more recoil than the m249? (stats only, no opinions)
They both have exactly the same muzzle climb characteristics (compare bold text below).
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Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2009-09-11 05:47
by Qaiex
People probably are getting confused by the QBB's 600 RPM vs the M249's 900 RPM.
With the para firing more bullets faster it is less noticeable when it misses.
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2010-01-17 17:04
by Meza82
RPK all the way!
HK-21
pkm
m249 non-para
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2010-01-17 17:23
by rampo
Rampo want M60 but rampo can't has
therefor Al Quds
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2010-01-17 17:30
by 2ClipsOneKill
1. SAW (the one the Brits have, without the red triangle in the sights)
2. other SAW
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5. PKM x4
6. Chinese QBB-95
7. MEC AR <-- the sight is hideous
8. PKM
Nothing even comes close to the SAW because there's no iron sights:
No blocking your view after some kick means longer bursts on target,
also it's much easier to shoot moving targets and
you have more general target area awareness, you can see if someone is setting up to shoot you.
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2010-01-17 17:55
by Xbrad150X
theres a PKM with zoom!
Re: Fav Lmgs
Posted: 2010-01-17 18:02
by Bringerof_D
FN Minimi as featured for the British, only because i prefer the elcan over the acog on this weapon, i dunno the acog on the m249 just doesnt feel right for me, too much of a precise point whereas on the elcan you get a clear line of sight and a marked out kill zone
