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Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-25 14:03
by SpungE
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Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-25 14:06
by ma21212
Lego wolf3d was made on it...........looks fun lol Ima DL it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UqtUnMyZX8

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-25 14:06
by R.J.Travis
SpungE wrote:????
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As stated in my link the "DEV" team has told us that the "PR2" alpha test they wanted to get to the community by the end of 2009 wont be on time there will be a delay.

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-25 14:21
by supahpingi
ma21212 wrote:Lego wolf3d was made on it...........looks fun lol Ima DL it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UqtUnMyZX8
OMFG!

Thats like 2 really good youth memories mixed togheter :D

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-25 15:09
by >para<
R.J.Travis wrote:Well "PR2" Alpha test will not be made in 2009 as they hopped for The community may not see a Alpha in tell 2nd half of 2010 with a release in 2011 if everything gos right
hmmmmm welcome againg i remeber you PR good bye thread
you play it again ? :-P

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-25 22:35
by Zulnex
GoreZiad wrote:Looking forward to it, but still loving every biit of the current one, and all the things it'll have in the future.
I absolutely agree with you.

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 00:29
by Masaq
R.J.Travis wrote:Well "PR2" Alpha test will not be made in 2009 as they hopped for The community may not see a Alpha in tell 2nd half of 2010 with a release in 2011 if everything gos right
Actually, you're quite wrong. We've never planned for a playable PR2 Alpha this year; the 2011 date is the earliest a commercial product could go out. I think you're maybe reading a little too much into the PR2 FAQ :p

What we have said is that the project is still in the proof-of-concept stage, on an engine that's still a work in progress. It may never see fruition, it may never become a fully released game.

Everyone involved in the project is, of course, fully committed to making it everything it can be - but the end result is a long, long way away.

That is all.

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 02:05
by TristanYockell
I have no problem whatsoever about paying a monthly fee to play PR2.

If its like the current PR, with improved ballistics, material penetration ect. updated graphics, I will be a very happy individual and will likely spend ridiculous amounts of time playing it.

Project Reality has given me countless hours of enjoyment, so much more than all other games combined.

I wish the Devs nothing but the best on their journey to PR2, and I thank you all Greatly for your dedication and hardwork.

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 02:26
by M_Striker
Conman51 wrote:Dont make any assumptions ;-)

If you over hype yourself for it you might be disappointed, not saying that the DEVs suck, its just remember, they will not be getting paid until they release it, and even when they release it they might not get that much since people might not want to pay a subscription.

But im still confident the DEVs will do well with or without money, unlike other game makers :p
A subscription?


My hype just died. :-?

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 03:19
by Conman51
M_Striker wrote:A subscription?


My hype just died. :-?
Your hype is always dead unless its about something coming out of EAs or Infinity Wards *** :twisted:

If it really does come to a subscription in 3 years time i probably would be able to pay for it, its only expected to be 3 bucks a month, hell, i could even buy it for you by asking friends for some cash :p

im hoping the DEVs could actually have a subscription and a pay once plan,
pay 50 or 60 bucks like you do for a normal game and you own it for ever,
and do the 3 bucks a month thing for the short term players

but again ,this is all just speculation about the future, its like trying to predict the weather on Mars 2 years from now...

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 03:20
by Bringerof_D
NO...no i cant imagine, my brain cannot wrap around the concept of an even better and even more realistic PR. please dont say anymore my head will explode >A<

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 03:57
by ankyle62
M_Striker wrote:A subscription?


My hype just died. :-?
yeah, there is no reason for a monthly fee.

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 06:25
by Snazz
ankyle62 wrote:yeah, there is no reason for a monthly fee.
I'm not keen about paying monthly fees myself, but there's definitely reasons.

It could provide a constant flow of revenue, which gives the devs the financial support to progressively evolve the game long after initial release.

You have to consider the nature of independent game development, which doesn't allow the devs to release much content/features at first compared to big budget titles.

The alternative of course is the usual process of selling one game then using the sales income to make a sequel (or an expansion disguised as one).

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 08:23
by master of the templars
Snazz wrote:I'm not keen about paying monthly fees myself, but there's definitely reasons.

It could provide a constant flow of revenue, which gives the devs the financial support to progressively evolve the game long after initial release.

You have to consider the nature of independent game development, which doesn't allow the devs to release much content/features at first compared to big budget titles.

The alternative of course is the usual process of selling one game then using the sales income to make a sequel (or an expansion disguised as one).
If they can make this fantastic thing called the Project Reality Minimod for BF2 for free them they obviously don't need the revenue, i could handle one time payment but subscription is insane.


And it wont stop the noobs, just look at all the online MMORPG games, or xbox live

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 08:42
by DankE_SPB
master of the templars wrote:If they can make this fantastic thing called the Project Reality Minimod for BF2 for free them they obviously don't need the revenue
human can live on water and bread for pretty long time and even work, but it doesnt mean it should a)become a regular thing b)he will live as long as if he ate normal food
i could handle one time payment
so you will be happy with
The alternative of course is the usual process of selling one game then using the sales income to make a sequel (or an expansion disguised as one).
?

anyway nothing is completely decided yet

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 08:47
by TY2D2
You wouldn't pay 36 dollars a year to play PR2?

You've been allowed to play the free mod for years already, but you wouldn't cough up a few bucks to support a full fledged game?

Wow, penny pinching much?

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 08:58
by Jedimushroom
I mean, I would be fine with a subscription as I have a butt-ton of money but some of the people on here are all like "Can my Voodoo 3 play PR? I don't have enough money to upgrade...". Those guys would be getting a seriously raw deal.

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 09:38
by Conman51
im sure cards like the 8800 and above will probably be able to play PR2 on medium...jst a guess though

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 10:02
by Z-trooper
Why should we not be paied for our effort? I am one of the newest members of the DEV team but I still invested around 2 years of my spare time on this. Time I could be doing other stuff like chasing more girls or having this so called "life" I keep hearing about. You can't keep living on fast rope suggestions and deviation complaints, I need money for electricity so I can turn on my computer and keep working...

And why should we not be paied to provide continous updates and expansions and development, like now? (aka subscription) Expect us to just get paied once and then magically live on fresh air only and power our computers with farts and keep working to provide you with stuff.

And also don't get a crazy hype going that we cannot fullfil. BF2 had a lot of stuff like basic soldier control and vehicles handling in place. We have to do all of this from scratch equally or better than a full time game studio for you people to be satisfied hehe. Take it easy guys :)

Re: Can you imagine how awesome PR 2 will be?!

Posted: 2009-11-26 11:04
by Masaq
master of the templars wrote:If they can make this fantastic thing called the Project Reality Minimod for BF2 for free them they obviously don't need the revenue, i could handle one time payment but subscription is insane.


And it wont stop the noobs, just look at all the online MMORPG games, or xbox live
Except you're not comparing like for like. PR (there is no such thing as PRMM now ;) ) is built on a platform that has networking code, physics, export functions, rendering etc etc etc all already in place. At its most basic, editing BF2 can be fundamentally as easy as opening notepad and tweaking a few numbers.

With PR2, our coders will actually have to create the system that the .tweak file actually plugs in to.

If you expect the PR2 Dev team to spend the next two years working on a project, for free, and be able to produce something of the quality that we want to (and that players will expect from us), that is an improvement on PR1 graphically and in gameplay terms, without being able to claw back some form of compensation... you're nuts.

No-one in the team is ever going to get rich off PR2. That's not the intention - but there is no way that the argument "If you can make PR1 for free then you can make PR2 for free too" is a valid one.