Improve the Ins Snipers

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Bellator
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by Bellator »

Yes. The insurgent sniper should be enhanced. Now he is virtually defenseless and given the general lack of insurgent medical care, he will be quickly killed if he makes a single mistake.

The solution is 1. make insurgent sniper kits available in greater numbers, like say 3, in addition to 3 SVDs. Whereas now insurgent snipers and marksmen are an oddity, insurgents often use snipers IRL, and snipers are not super soldiers of any kind in PR. From my experience, they're often quite useless. 1 sniper kit would be available at both caches, while 1 would be available at the main. The SVDs would be available at main only.

OR. Another and seperate solution is the one that the thread started laid out. Give the insurgent sniper 3 patches, like the insurgent cell leader, and a pistol. The rarity of the sniper kit wouldn't make this arrengement overpowered.

And also, who cares about the accompanying spotter dogma? It's a dogma. Especially in this case when the snipers in question are paramilitary and do not follow conventional military doctrines.
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Cheditor
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by Cheditor »

If the insurgent sniper kit was on a timed respawn (i.e 10+ minutes) i would agree but as soon as you die, minute later its at base again. A field dressing would make sense though too, as your normally not near a civi.
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Heikkine
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by Heikkine »

More sniper rifles would make sence, in the way that they are used alot in RL.
'imagines 3-4 man squad coverin a cache far out from building tops and pinning down entire squads'
*drool*
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TheLean
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by TheLean »

Kim Jong ill wrote:If you're having a sniper spot for you then you're wasting a rifle, the spotter should be a SL with an officer kit. That way he has a GLTD and he can place markers for you.
Please read the subject of the thread before posting. Ins snipers does not have GLTD.
rampo
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by rampo »

mmm... ruggy renegade scout whit a SVD moving in the rooftops in the smoking map taking out infidel officers
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ma21212
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by ma21212 »

ACCTUALY the Lee is pwng. thats all i gotta say, i killed so many ppl with it, you just gotta know how to use it. and the SVD aint bad I got kills with it too.
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Hitman.2.5
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by Hitman.2.5 »

Just make the ins Sniper more like this
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badmojo420
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by badmojo420 »

[quote=""'[R-COM"]Cheditor;1194341']If the insurgent sniper kit was on a timed respawn (i.e 10+ minutes) i would agree but as soon as you die, minute later its at base again.[/quote]

There is actually a 5 minute re-spawn timer for the insurgent pickup kits. But, I would agree with increasing this time to 10minutes.

[quote="ma21212""]ACCTUALY the Lee is pwng. thats all i gotta say, i killed so many ppl with it, you just gotta know how to use it. and the SVD aint bad I got kills with it too.[/quote]

WTF? I never asked for any of the weapons to be changed. I just think they need some personal protection for when things go bad. Like a pistol, grenade trap, or an undeployed mode on the rifles.
illidur
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by illidur »

i think ins snipers already have a better advantage with the fact that they are defending. if they get hit it makes you run and find healing. which adds to the hit and run feel.
Taliban-IED
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by Taliban-IED »

Adde kalashnikov-47/74 with svd scope instead of RPK´s on each cache. And the problem is solved + it geting a little closer to reality.
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gazzthompson
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by gazzthompson »

Taliban-IED wrote:Adde kalashnikov-47/74 with svd scope instead of RPK´s on each cache. And the problem is solved + it geting a little closer to reality.
why would it be more realistic? and sources.
Herbiie
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by Herbiie »

TheLean wrote:Please read the subject of the thread before posting. Ins snipers does not have GLTD.
Any nor should they.

Guys - INSURGENTS ARE POOR. Do you think they protect their positions with ANYTHING except for other insurgents?
badmojo420
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by badmojo420 »

Well, I don't know what the real insurgents are doing, but if I was an insurgent and was going to be running around with a big expensive sniper rifle, I would at least carry a pistol.

If the solution is to always have someone with you, then why do the conventional forces snipers get pistols? Because shit happens, people die, and when the smoke clears and your still holding a bigass bolt action rifle, your in for some trouble.

I can understand the argument about insurgents being poor, but small arms aren't exactly high value items in that part of the world. Nor do i believe the people doing the fighting are paying for the own weapons.

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Items captured from a Jihadist sniper team’s vehicle included a Bushnell laser rangefinder, P35 pistol, grenade and video camera used for intelligence gathering and propaganda. Photo courtesy of the USMC
from: Iraqi insurgent snipers; a detailed look at the elusive fighters. - Iran Defense Forum
TristanYockell
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by TristanYockell »

badmojo420 wrote:Well, I don't know what the real insurgents are doing, but if I was an insurgent and was going to be running around with a big expensive sniper rifle, I would at least carry a pistol.

If the solution is to always have someone with you, then why do the conventional forces snipers get pistols? Because shit happens, people die, and when the smoke clears and your still holding a bigass bolt action rifle, your in for some trouble.

I can understand the argument about insurgents being poor, but small arms aren't exactly high value items in that part of the world. Nor do i believe the people doing the fighting are paying for the own weapons.

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from: Iraqi insurgent snipers; a detailed look at the elusive fighters. - Iran Defense Forum
Yeah a makarov or tokarev ect. would be pretty cheap and easy to get a hold of over there i would presume.
ma21212
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by ma21212 »

badmojo420 wrote: WTF? I never asked for any of the weapons to be changed. I just think they need some personal protection for when things go bad. Like a pistol, grenade trap, or an undeployed mode on the rifles.
oh i didnt read full thing, my appologies. yez they need a pistl ....or even better a skorpion
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BloodBane611
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by BloodBane611 »

Skorpion for insurgent snipers! That's where it's at.
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503
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by 503 »

badmojo420 wrote:but if I was an insurgent and was going to be running around with a big expensive sniper rifle, I would at least carry a pistol.
If I was an insurgent, I would use the sniper rifle for anything since deviation isn't crazy in RL.
boilerrat
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by boilerrat »

[R-COM]Cheditor wrote:If the insurgent sniper kit was on a timed respawn (i.e 10+ minutes) i would agree but as soon as you die, minute later its at base again. A field dressing would make sense though too, as your normally not near a civi.
Insurgents need bandages. The bandages themselves aren't high tech expensive pieces of equipment, from my first aid expierience all a bandage needs to be is a clean piece of cloth prefferably (But not required) sterile that can be used to apply pressure to bleeding.


So im pretty sure insurgents don't fight naked, they could rip some clothing and use it to slow bleeding long enough for it to clot.
Herbiie
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Re: Improve the Ins Snipers

Post by Herbiie »

badmojo420 wrote:Well, I don't know what the real insurgents are doing, but if I was an insurgent and was going to be running around with a big expensive sniper rifle, I would at least carry a pistol.

If the solution is to always have someone with you, then why do the conventional forces snipers get pistols? Because shit happens, people die, and when the smoke clears and your still holding a bigass bolt action rifle, your in for some trouble.

I can understand the argument about insurgents being poor, but small arms aren't exactly high value items in that part of the world. Nor do i believe the people doing the fighting are paying for the own weapons.

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from: Iraqi insurgent snipers; a detailed look at the elusive fighters. - Iran Defense Forum
... Sniper, TEAM. I.e More than one. In PR, if you have a spotter, he can cover you.

Insurgents should get something called a bandage, that gives out 10% health instead of 25%, to symbolise it being just a dirty rag.
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