Noooooo!bigmoose332 wrote:you can only command after being a SL for 'x' hours..
Retarded idea, simply. The vast majority of my gaming (with PR) is playing with a group of friends I know from outside the world of PR. We like to go into servers and make our own little squads and have fun without being forced into akward online social interactions with often emotionally and/or mentally challenged people. I think it is stupid to attempt to outright force interaction. Sure, there are lots of elements in PR which encourage teamwork; multi-manning vehicles, squad number requirements for kit selections, etc, but saying "you can't do f*** all until you endure x hours of grinding often stupid gruntwork and moronic internet people" kind of defeats the entire premise of PR being a game and not a real-life, military enthusiast's simulation.I think you should only be able to be a SL or Commander based up the amount of time you have played and the amount of 'TEAM POINTS' you have(note.. nothing to do with kills.. simply points from capping flags, working as a team etc etc).
Ironic, because that's exactly what it would do.This is by no means a suggestion to deter new people
By the sounds of things, the idea would force squad leaders who are more allowing to open and free comms over VOIP.. thus resolving your current issue with social awkwardness with people you don't know?Doedel wrote:Retarded idea, simply. The vast majority of my gaming (with PR) is playing with a group of friends I know from outside the world of PR. We like to go into servers and make our own little squads and have fun without being forced into akward online social interactions with often emotionally and/or mentally challenged people. I think it is stupid to attempt to outright force interaction.
Good point... kind of. In my original post, which I edited, I was quite intent on refering to the fact that although this may appear an idea to integrate rank related progression to make the game more 'real'.. it was ALL to do with simply ensuring newer players see the game as it should be played right from the get go.Doedel wrote: ..but saying "you can't do f*** all until you endure x hours of grinding often stupid gruntwork and moronic internet people" kind of defeats the entire premise of PR being a game and not a real-life, military enthusiast's simulation.
Would it really deter new players? I think being led by a [more likely] confident and 'PR' enthused person would benefit me as a complete solo newbie.Doedel wrote: Ironic, because that's exactly what it would do.
That ^ is mature.Tofurkeymeister wrote:Let's just say that if PR had a progression system I may have never started playing it.
Also, lets get some DEV's in here! A flame war (Which this is turning into) ain't much fun without a DEV. I know you are watching us DEV's, and laughing among yourselves... you should flame, too.
P.S. If a poll is added this might not turn into a TOTAL flame-fest.
It was kind of sarcastic, I'm just saying that nothing productive will likely come out of this thread without a poll or DEV intervention (which I really don't think they should intervene).mk19ftw wrote:That ^ is mature.
yeah like that.maybe this would bring something what you try to reach.IAJTHOMAS wrote:I agree that using such an idea as a restriction is a bad one for the reasons pointed out below, and I'm always a bit wary of the whole idea of rank creating an elitist mind set in certain people.
However, rank might be useful as a *rough* form of indication of experience, without restricting anything. I.e. you can see that the SL/commander isn't a private. Obviously this shouldn't be the be all and end all of deciding whether a player is good, but it's an at a glance indicator.
I for instance have been playing for a while, but if I even think about getting to a place it spontanteously combusts on the runway...
If something like this were to implimented I'd like to see it stripped right down so its not a massive e-penis waving exercise. A few rank like private, corporal,sergeant, lieutenant, captan would do. No need for Field Marshalls to be runninf about with Lance Chief Petty Bombadiers and whatever other wierd and wonderful ranks that seem to exist solely for the purpose of being 1 better than the 1 below and 1 worse than the 1 above.
spent time<> decent skillsmaarit wrote:yeah like that.maybe this would bring something what you try to reach.
more you play,higher your rank is.
private=0 hours playing
corporal=50 hours playing
sergeant=100 hours playing
Points such as these also weigh down heavily on the 'no' side of my scales =]archerfenris wrote:The problem with this is alot of teamwork alot of the time goes unnoticed by the points system. A sniper's spotter who sat there all game not firing his weapons once was looking through his binos calling out targets and possible cache locations while getting his sniper on rooftops and protecting him from close dangers. This spotter who, if he's good, can help his team find as many as 4 or 5 caches by his intel alone often times recieves almost no compensation for his work in teamwork points.
