Lone wolf?

[burghUK]

meh ...stop hating the snipers. end of.

[Herbiie]

meh ...stop hating the snipers. end of.

I don't hate snipers?

Where did that come from?

Lone Wolfs yes, an effective sniper team, no.

[Nebsif]

There are many thingz a loner can do better than a full squad, like sneaking behind enemy linez and destroying bridges, mining up roads, ninjaing FoBs, flanking (while using a squad as a bait), ambushing, having a nice KDR.

After joining full voip squads and dying ~6 times for stupid objectives I just stopped trying to find a good inf sq. And dying for stupid objectives = assaulting the same well defended... bunker on barracuda when ur on US side cuz ur SL wants 2 even tho u wont ever bleed, or constantly moving from objective X to objective Y and then back to X and then again on Qwai instead of staying and defending one.

[Duck]

lol this, only shoot if u have to recon kind of thing. in ww2 one of the most efective ambush units of the US forces were recon/scout dudes who ran around hiding, scouting, finding intel but before leaving they shot many germans, got back to base, delivered the intel and got medals for their kills.

And stop hating the lone wolvers. Noob lone wolvers, yes. Me, no. And the part where the other squads dont help you, well lol when i help out a squad as a lone wolf, my support is so big they need me alive.

Today, was alone trapped in a building, no friendlies around what so ever. Hostiles everywhere. I did my job, reported in enemy squad movements, killed every fool who tried to enter the door (i had mg). With my reports my team managed to regroup, wait and ambush the enemy because i told them where and when they were moving out.

Again today, squad was pinned down by enemy fire, they were shooting back but with not to much firepower. I went on a flankin hit alone against the enemy squad, i waited for the enemy squad to stop shooting for a bit, friendly squad pinned them down for a couple of seconds, i flanked em and attacked. Shot 1 or 2 cus the rest tried to run for cover and got killed by the friendly squad i was assisting.

So yeah, so far so good. Great score, team always wins, many tickets saved (saved lives of my teamm8s).

Please man, dont get the lone wolf thing like Rambo. I am no rambo... As a lone wolf i actualy increase my teams wining chance more than if im in a squad.

[Herbiie]

Please man, dont get the lone wolf thing like Rambo. I am no rambo... As a lone wolf i actualy increase my teams wining chance more than if im in a squad.

*yawn* By being a Lonewolf you are not playing PR how it was designed to be played, simple as, no matter how effectively you think you are working, if you were a good squad member in a good squad you'd be doing alot more to help your team.

[Alex6714]

*yawn* By being a Lonewolf you are not playing PR how it was designed to be played, simple as, no matter how effectively you think you are working, if you were a good squad member in a good squad you'd be doing alot more to help your team.

I thought there were many measures to stop this...

But I find that thats not always true, often a couple of lonewolfers doing the right thing can help their team alot, rather than just the squad they are in. Of course, complete overall teamwork is best, but then you have to decide if we are talking about tournament conditions or public servers, because the things are very very different.

[Duck]

public servers m8 and PR was designed for teamwork, and thats what im doing as a lone wolf. told u, no rambo.

[motherdear]

i have to say that i believe that lone wolfing is not really ideal in project reality for a variety of reasons.
1) you are not able to engage anybody because you will have 6 men ontop of you in an instant.
2) you only got 1 set of eyes
3) your firepower is neglible and will only be effective enough to take down one guy
4) it's harder communicating with the team if you are not a squad leader.

what i do if i want to do these kinds of things (which i do quite a lot) is to break my squad into 2 fireteams with 2-300 meters between them and they are much more covert.
alternatively i break my squad into 2 squads, giving me 2 rally points and the mobility to move as we want but gather for strong attacks etc.
this gives me a few advantages over the lonewolf
1) I can have a rally point
2) I can put down superiour firepower for short burst and then bugger out, split my squad up and hit from multiple angles.
3) I can move just as fast as the lonewolf
4) I got more than my own set of eyes
5) I can have AR's medics etc etc but still be a effective force
6) I can cover a much wider area than a wider squad and have support when taking down firebases (don't you just hate when people spawn on the fb as you are about to kill it)
etc etc

quite simply 3 man fireteams/squad >>>>>dumbass lonewolf

this doesn't mean that all small units can't be effective though.
A recon element can be great on maps like kashan, but i'd rather have these in the chopper squad than alone.
try instead of going lonewolfing to go and play in 3 man squads, you don't have orders being yelled at you, you are more effective, and most important of all. it is much more relaxing (all the benefits of the lonewolf plus a few more)

[Duck]

i have to say that i believe that lone wolfing is not really ideal in project reality for a variety of reasons.
1) you are not able to engage anybody because you will have 6 men ontop of you in an instant.
2) you only got 1 set of eyes
3) your firepower is neglible and will only be effective enough to take down one guy
4) it's harder communicating with the team if you are not a squad leader.

what i do if i want to do these kinds of things (which i do quite a lot) is to break my squad into 2 fireteams with 2-300 meters between them and they are much more covert.
alternatively i break my squad into 2 squads, giving me 2 rally points and the mobility to move as we want but gather for strong attacks etc.
this gives me a few advantages over the lonewolf
1) I can have a rally point
2) I can put down superiour firepower for short burst and then bugger out, split my squad up and hit from multiple angles.
3) I can move just as fast as the lonewolf
4) I got more than my own set of eyes
5) I can have AR's medics etc etc but still be a effective force
6) I can cover a much wider area than a wider squad and have support when taking down firebases (don't you just hate when people spawn on the fb as you are about to kill it)
etc etc

quite simply 3 man fireteams/squad >>>>>dumbass lonewolf

this doesn't mean that all small units can't be effective though.
A recon element can be great on maps like kashan, but i'd rather have these in the chopper squad than alone.
try instead of going lonewolfing to go and play in 3 man squads, you don't have orders being yelled at you, you are more effective, and most important of all. it is much more relaxing (all the benefits of the lonewolf plus a few more)

good point, but people that play that good, hard to find... many dont follow orders. used to be a squad ldr, but i just got sick and tired of people not following my orders, always running off and getting killed.

[motherdear]

good point, but people that play that good, hard to find... many dont follow orders. used to be a squad ldr, but i just got sick and tired of people not following my orders, always running off and getting killed.

just make sure to name your squad something along eng voip and then people will follow your orders. inform them quickly of what you are doing and as soon as you reach the number of people you want you just lock the squad or kick the people that are not listening.
it takes 2 min to do this and it gives you good players

[General_J0k3r]

Project Reality is NOT about your KDR.
Simple As - there's NO place for a Lone wolf in PR, and those who do it are making their team worse.

i don't agree with your first statement. it is ALL about KDR (unless one gets capped out which i take for given is not happening with good teams that quickly).

teamwork is there to improve the KDR and/or cap out. but with a shitty kdr ur never gonna cap out anyone

[[twl]Lan]

just make sure to name your squad something along eng voip and then people will follow your orders. inform them quickly of what you are doing and as soon as you reach the number of people you want you just lock the squad or kick the people that are not listening.
it takes 2 min to do this and it gives you good players

100% good advice.

Good squad names to attract the right players:

ENG VOIP
ENG TEAMW
DEFENSE
SNEAK TW

Avoid "Recon", "Ninja" and such until you play with ppl you know, "cool" squad names attract the wrong ppl.

Give the short speech to each player as he joins, politely kick ppl who doesn't agree with your vision for the round (it is your sqd).

Hey guys, everyone got mic? (Look at the sq list)
Sorry, voip required (boot ppl without mic)
Alright, mission goal is to sneak behind enemy lines and hit their infrastructure. Report contacts, hold fire, kits allocation as follows...
Final warning - anyone go 100 meters away from me without authorization gets a warning. Do it again and I will kick you from the sq. Teamwork guys, keep together.

Do it in the first 2 mins as players will be looking for sqds. Be too late and you will not get the best ones.

[Koolaid-maker]

and plus, even though you might be skilled and all.
true life-militaries never once send people alone on a mission, theres always at least one guy with them.
(Reason: you double the effectiveness while only increasing the chance of being seen by a bit, if both are skilled in sneaking)
And even if your working with the squad, you cant communicate with them as you could if you would just join them:
even if you and the sl in question are both in mumble, you still couldnt see the sl's attack-marker pointing at wherever its pointing at, which makes you less effective than an actual member.
Now, if all squads are full and noone joins your opened squad, your way of doing it is probably the best way, especially if your a medic.
But how often does that happen, really?

The way your doing it, you might be a skilled rambo. But your still a Rambo.

[Nebsif]

I always open a squad just for the kits and tell every1 to do their own thing.. I'd prefer going with another sneaky dude instead of going alone, but last time I tried it, the other guy took a PKM and sprayed the 1st enemy he saw w/o reporting..

[PLODDITHANLEY]

I have recently played a few times with a very very competant player, he always wanders off doing recce, but as he is undoubtably very talented he tends to get lots of kills and doesn't die.
He does talk on VOIP and help out, but I have decided I don't want this in a squad I am SLing, hell I don't even want this if I am a SM.
I play PR for the teamwork and the laughs I love that aspect so much more than KD's, points an all that vanilla stuff.

If people want to lone wolf what are they playing PR for, there are so many other games better adapted to this type of gameplay out there.

[BossOlen]

Although they are hated, sometimes lonewolfs are useful. For example on Muttrah city USMC rarely get past the docks - this could be easily fixed if 1 lonewolf would go behind enemy lines with boat(which is never used) and take out MEC fb-s, every single one of them. It's pretty hard to be sneaky with a full 6-man squad. FB is not hard to take down alone, and taking it down benefits your team alot.

[Truism]

Although they are hated, sometimes lonewolfs are useful. For example on Muttrah city USMC rarely get past the docks - this could be easily fixed if 1 lonewolf would go behind enemy lines with boat(which is never used) and take out MEC fb-s, every single one of them. It's pretty hard to be sneaky with a full 6-man squad. FB is not hard to take down alone, and taking it down benefits your team alot.

I lone wolf with boats almost continuously. Because it massively multiplies your force and lets you do extremely useful things by being behind the MEC. And more importantly it means I don't have to fumble around in complex terrain relying on people with the tactical competance of baboons.

[Herbiie]

i don't agree with your first statement. it is ALL about KDR (unless one gets capped out which i take for given is not happening with good teams that quickly).

teamwork is there to improve the KDR and/or cap out. but with a shitty kdr ur never gonna cap out anyone

O RLY?

I've gone many rounds without getting any kills, I've either suppressed the enemy long enough for the rest of my squad to move up or been Medic, Pilot, Driver, lots of things where you help the team win but don't require a KDR, also it's about working as a team to get to your objective - by being clever and working as a team a squad can take an objective without having to fire a shot, which usually causes the enemy team to panic - the flag they were just attacking is now uncappable!

A Lone Wolf can't cap a flag - this isn't Vanilla.

[HunterMed]

i don't agree with your first statement. it is ALL about KDR (unless one gets capped out which i take for given is not happening with good teams that quickly).

teamwork is there to improve the KDR and/or cap out. but with a shitty kdr ur never gonna cap out anyone

exactly... most games are not won by capping out the enemy but better k/d ratio and or vehicle losses.

[RedWater]

O RLY?

I've gone many rounds without getting any kills, I've either suppressed the enemy long enough for the rest of my squad to move up or been Medic, Pilot, Driver, lots of things where you help the team win but don't require a KDR, also it's about working as a team to get to your objective - by being clever and working as a team a squad can take an objective without having to fire a shot, which usually causes the enemy team to panic - the flag they were just attacking is now uncappable!

A Lone Wolf can't cap a flag - this isn't Vanilla.

/Facepalm.

Joker is saying that you cant win if the enemy kills you and you dont kill him. Just because YOU YOURSELF does not kill the enemy doesnt mean someone else is not doing it.
When youre medic you help your TEAM killing. But sometimes YOU have to be the one killing. And thats something a competent lonewolf can be very good indeed.

Thats why I do it from time to time aswell