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Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 16:26
by Oskar
After familiarizing myself with the new SL radio and some other things, I'll be on RT as SL for a TRAINING squad to help new players get into the game.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 16:33
by system
Great idea, Lan! I'm down. Will be doing the same thing.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 16:34
by Sniperdog
Great idea... I will do my part :)

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 16:39
by burghUK
i will do this. Someone has to while all the elitists and clan members stick to themselves.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 19:35
by Orford
We are aiming to get a training squad with a clan member as SL for inf, APC, FOB defence for as many squads as possible leaving some squad spots for our regular players to SL.. with the SL`s in mumble and clan TS having as many squads working togeather in the team will give the new players a feel of how good a mod it is watching 32 player go into battle as on organised unit.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 20:12
by Shaihuluid
How about some organization? Training squads fight it out on a single server?
*NwA*Orford wrote:We are aiming to get a training squad with a clan member as SL for inf, APC, FOB defence for as many squads as possible leaving some squad spots for our regular players to SL.. with the SL`s in mumble and clan TS having as many squads working togeather in the team will give the new players a feel of how good a mod it is watching 32 player go into battle as on organised unit.
this server's doing it right, but what about something low-tech and pub-friendly?

just some suggestions. I'd be happy to lead a training squad, but the noobs are just gonna be steamrolled if they're fighting PR veterans.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 21:07
by killonsight95
i will support this as soon as i get the download finnished... damn you slow internetz and not having any patch to download

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 21:21
by [twl]Lan
Thanks for listening to the suggestion all. :)

Shaihuluid wrote:How about some organization? Training squads fight it out on a single server?

this server's doing it right, but what about something low-tech and pub-friendly?

just some suggestions. I'd be happy to lead a training squad, but the noobs are just gonna be steamrolled if they're fighting PR veterans.
Well, I don't know how one can co-ordinate that. As you see in this thread, most people will be on their favorite (or their own clans) server so it's mostly up to the servers to balance things as normal. I don't know what else we can do, trying to co-ordinate newcomers to specific servers isn't a good idea either.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 21:22
by Shaihuluid
'[twl wrote:Lan;1254709']Thanks for listening to the suggestion all. :)




Well, I don't know how one can co-ordinate that. As you see in this thread, most people will be on their favorite (or their own clans) server so it's mostly up to the servers to balance things as normal. I don't know what else we can do, trying to co-ordinate newcomers to specific servers isn't a good idea either.
yeah, you're probably right about that one. too late on the eve of .9 for any big organization, anyway. Still, there is going to be some intense learning curves...

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 21:31
by Northwest Fresh
How about I lead an Insurgent squad packin' RKG-3s? 5-6 of 'em will apparently take care of an APC. :mrgreen:

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 21:35
by Pedz
I should be up for some helping people :P , I always welcome newbies to my squad, but ill make the extra effort in making my squad stand out to be newbie friendly by using your idea and making a separate squad =]

I think the best thing to do is to try and get as many Trainee squad on as many different servers as possible, so no matter what server they join, they'll have a home :P . (until the squads fill)

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 21:57
by -.-Maverick-.-
Those first hours of 0.9 are gonna be funny as hell! :mrgreen:

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 22:00
by Shooter90
-.-Maverick-.- wrote:Those first hours of 0.9 are gonna be funny as hell! :mrgreen:
Then it all dies down and people do their separate ways, coop or mp.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 22:01
by bromley
or maybe they could just play training servers, im always a squad leader and theres nothing i hate more than an inefficient squad who doesnt know how to play, i like getting stuff done not explaining what the epipen does. If they are new to this read the manual or play training dont hop into a normal server thinking you'll get first place because you play vbf2 5 hours a day. Im not welcoming any newcomers i will kick them from the squad, training mode exists for a reason and im sure there will be plenty of servers populated for training

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 22:12
by Snazz
bromley wrote:or maybe they could just play training servers, im always a squad leader and theres nothing i hate more than an inefficient squad who doesnt know how to play, i like getting stuff done not explaining what the epipen does. If they are new to this read the manual or play training dont hop into a normal server thinking you'll get first place because you play vbf2 5 hours a day. Im not welcoming any newcomers i will kick them from the squad, training mode exists for a reason and im sure there will be plenty of servers populated for training
1. Training mode is gone in 0.9, replaced by COOP mode.

2. Training mode wasn't really that effective anyway, newbies learned a lot more from reading the manual and playing normal matches lead by helpful squad leaders.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 22:14
by Pedz
bromley wrote:or maybe they could just play training servers, im always a squad leader and theres nothing i hate more than an inefficient squad who doesnt know how to play, i like getting stuff done not explaining what the epipen does. If they are new to this read the manual or play training dont hop into a normal server thinking you'll get first place because you play vbf2 5 hours a day. Im not welcoming any newcomers i will kick them from the squad, training mode exists for a reason and im sure there will be plenty of servers populated for training
Seems like you haven't heard training servers are out of the picture...... Also please try to do a relevant post, this thread is for people willing to HELP newbies not hate them. As Unreal Tournament 3 says on its in-game loading screens "Practice good sportsmanship, you where a n00b once too". :P , And its totally true, no matter how much you blag, you weren't perfect at the start. We are dedicated to getting more people to join us in our fun and help others see the fun. I personally will welcome all the people you kick from your squad and we shall beat you :P

Edit: I must also add I will be mostly training the people who want to be trained, and not people who will go lone wolfing in my squad after I've told them its a bad idea :P . Training requires co-operation from them as well as patience from us =]

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-04 22:16
by [twl]Lan
bromley wrote:or maybe they could just play training servers, im always a squad leader and theres nothing i hate more than an inefficient squad who doesnt know how to play, i like getting stuff done not explaining what the epipen does. If they are new to this read the manual or play training dont hop into a normal server thinking you'll get first place because you play vbf2 5 hours a day. Im not welcoming any newcomers i will kick them from the squad, training mode exists for a reason and im sure there will be plenty of servers populated for training
1, Training mode is gone from 0.9
2, They should of course read the manual.
3, The TRAINEE is not meant to wetnurse them, simply to show them teamwork and how to act in a squad which cannot be learned offline or with bots.

Having said that, I will still tell people online what different things do but I will never encourage a newcomer to play as medic for example. I will likely have a second clanplayer act as medic. After a round or two, maybe they can try. Newcomers play with the basic kits in my squad unless I tell them to take something different - which I may and then give specific instruction on useage. I will not waste the entire squads time on lectures so it'll be 1 kit at a time, never a HAT however. That belongs to the team and should be used by experienced players. Good that it will remain 5 mins now, recovery is easier (by both teams).

In the end, do what you want. I choose to encourage people to play, give them that tantalizing teamwork feeling that will keep drawing them back. As previous people said, the mod isn't easy to get into and a friendly voice helps. All the gizmos, the fun extras in the kit is just that, extras that we all love but it's the teamwork that draws people.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-05 01:15
by Sniperdog
For me I would be fine if they came outta 'nilla without reading a single word of the manual as long as they know how to listen :)

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-05 01:23
by Blakeman
I will be on TexasTeamplayers helping anyone I can.

Re: Squadleaders - Attention on v0.9 Weekend!

Posted: 2010-02-05 01:39
by Wolfguard
I strongly approve this thread!

Have patience with the newcomers and treat them just like your own ol' lady ;-)