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Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-24 03:25
by 00SoldierofFortune00
dtacs wrote:The M16A1/Menosar is ridiculous IMO. It has almost no recoil or spread, and you can take a guy down at ~50m with full spray on one mag.
Then on single shot..whoa..
The IDF M4 is even worse and it has a red dot. Reminds me of 0.5 with the chaingun M4 that was basically a laser/mini-gun.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-24 04:17
by dtacs
00SoldierofFortune00 wrote:The IDF M4 is even worse and it has a red dot. Reminds me of 0.5 with the chaingun M4 that was basically a laser/mini-gun.
Agreed, I never use the IDF top officer, always take the M4 due to its rediculous ROF.
Psyrus wrote:+1 To this. I was on archer yesterday (as taliban) and grabbed a C7. Figured that the TAR uber-accuracy was all in my head and proceeded to try and take on some canadians with full auto. Well, suffice to say it sprayed all over the place and the recoil was much, much worse than the TAR. Often on Gaza I don't even bother sighting in, you can simply put that many accurate rounds within 40m that it isn't necessary, the enemy will just die. This is not the case for the C7, nor insurgent/AK based weapons. The only other gun that comes close is the PPSH, quite similar in feel to the TAR's dynamics.
Aye, PPSh is a whole 'nother ball game. Two of them in a Militia squad = another LMG.
But all on top of the M16/M4 etc the Galil will always come out on top. That gun is absolutely
ridiculous, as powerful as the G3 (or so it would seem), you can pop guys running full sprint with 2 shots to the chest. People just don't seem to have a go with it due to the sights.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-24 05:08
by LithiumFox
Maybe the tar is just that accurate when used properly?
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-24 09:04
by Trooper909
qaiex wrote:Which SAW?
Squad Automatic Weapon refers to all of them.
Allways wondered why peaple only call the U.S AR a SAW.
Anyway its just the nice optics and low recoil that makes the TAR-21 better anything else is in your head.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-24 14:05
by Arnoldio
Yeah it makes you feel (makes me too) beter with the TAR "in your hands". Its so small, the unscoped version is so slim and unconfusing, plus the nice ROF, profit pretty much...
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-25 02:05
by TheOldBreed
ChizNizzle wrote:Yeah it makes you feel (makes me too) beter with the TAR "in your hands". Its so small, the unscoped version is so slim and unconfusing, plus the nice ROF, profit pretty much...
yeah man. in CQB the TAR without the magnification is king. the other day some real bad Islamic fella tried to sneak up on me, so i turned round just in time and sprayed from the hip. 2 rounds missed out of like 7 total. i have to say the TAR is my new best friend haha
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-25 21:01
by ZZEZ
TAR21 has exactly the same recoil/deviation as the M16A4 and I often see people complaining that its underpowered..
So perhaps its just the high ROF together with a slim & slick automatic rifle that gives this impression
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-25 21:22
by Scot
That makes sense, as I find the short barrel M16s and the M16A1s to be absolute ownage, then I use the TAR, and find it to be like them, but with nicer sights
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-26 02:16
by Koroush47
It might just be in your head.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-26 05:22
by Outlawz7
00SoldierofFortune00 wrote:The IDF M4 is even worse and it has a red dot. Reminds me of 0.5 with the chaingun M4 that was basically a laser/mini-gun.
The lazor M4 was in 0.4
There is something about the TAR21 that makes it easier to use, I was playing as a spotter for a sniper on Gaza and got two kills with the TAR at 400m before he got his first M24 kill.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-27 03:44
by TheOldBreed
there IS definately something different about the TAR-21.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-27 15:48
by gazzthompson
TheOldBreed wrote:there IS definately something different about the TAR-21.
'[R-DEV wrote:ZZEZ;1304591']
TAR21 has exactly the same recoil/deviation as the M16A4 and I often see people complaining that its underpowered..
So perhaps its just the high ROF together with a slim & slick automatic rifle that gives this impression
guess not.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-27 15:58
by Jigsaw
TheOldBreed wrote:there IS definately something different about the TAR-21.
Nope, other than it is available in fully automatic flavour and in my eyes has a more user friendly scope.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-27 16:01
by Swat54swe
[R-DEV wrote:ZZEZ
TAR21 has exactly the same recoil/deviation as the M16A4 and I often see people complaining that its underpowered..
Well I think it's overpowerd
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-28 08:31
by Damian(>>>PL
I think its completly psychological, for example when I'm listening my music I'm much better in CQB.
Secound example, do you know why army always using women voice in jets ?
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-28 09:47
by dtacs
Damian(>>>PL wrote:I think its completly psychological, for example when I'm listening my music I'm much better in CQB.
Secound example, do you know why army always using women voice in jets ?
It is the background chatter on the radio. Its my assumption that the USAF allows women to have jobs in air control.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-28 10:00
by Chuc
As said before, code wise it's identical to any other 5.56 rifle.. however I guess we just pulled off this particular weapon so well that people like it the way they do..
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-28 11:58
by sakils2
TAR you say? I find the IDF M4A1 to be far superior, especially the medic's one. The M16A1's, Hamas gets, are quite good, as well.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-28 12:05
by Narco
Damian(>>>PL wrote:I think its completly psychological, for example when I'm listening my music I'm much better in CQB.
This. Its all in your head, although I do find it quite funny that despite the DEVs saying the code is the same people still insist something is different about it.
Re: Anyone else find the TAR-21 retardedly accurate?
Posted: 2010-03-28 12:09
by dtacs
Higher ROF is the thing that is different, brain just sees it as something else.
Regardless of the differences or lack thereof, its still an OP'd rifle.