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Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 05:55
by Excavus
This is basically like World War 3, without the nukes (because they ruin everything about a conventional war.) I changed it up a bit.

NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization):
United States (US-A for US Army or USMC for US Marine Corps)
United Kingdom (UK)
Israel (IDF)
Canada
Germany
Others
SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organization):
Russia
China (PLA)
Middle Eastern Coalition(MEC)
Others
Neutral:
Insurgents
Taliban
Hamas
Militia

Format:
Country Name
Year
Date: Battle Name (Map Name) Location Name - Faction vs. Faction

Pre World War 3:

Somalia

1993
October 3: Battle of Mogadishu (Ramiel) in Mogadishu, Somalia - US-A vs. Insurgents
Iraq
2003
March 21: Battle of Basra (Al Basrah) in Basra, Iraq - UK vs. Insurgents
March 31: Battle of Karbala (Karbala) in Karbala, Iraq - US-A vs. Insurgents
2004
November 7: Second Battle of Fallujah (Fallujah West) in Fallujah, Iraq - USMC vs. Insurgents
Afghanistan
2005
July 30: Operation Archer in Kandahar, Afghanistan - Canada vs. Taliban
2009
March 5: Korengal Valley in Korengal Valley, Afghanistan - US vs. Taliban
April 17: Lashkar Valley in Lashkar Valley, Afghanistan - Germany vs. Taliban
Gaza Strip
2009
January 1: Asad Khal in Gaza Strip - IDF vs. Hamas
January 2: Gaza Beach in Gaza Strip - IDF vs. Hamas

World War 3 begins:
Tensions heat up between Israel along with all it's NATO allies and the newly created Middle Eastern Coalition from former Iraq, Iran, and other Middle Eastern countries. MEC joins the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which other countries like China and Russia are apart of. MEC is pissed at the IDF (same reason why Iran wants to kill Israel.) A couple skirmishes happen, IDF is getting their asses kicked. The US comes in the picture along with it's NATO allies. MEC calls for help from it's allies, and a full out conventional war begins.

Timeline:

Oman
2011
August 30: Battle of Muttrah City (Muttrah City) in Muttrah, Oman - USMC vs. MEC
September 2: Battle of Jabal Al Burj (Jabal Al Burj) near Muttrah, Oman - USMC vs. MEC
Iran
2012
January 5: Kashan Desert near Kashan, Iran - US-A vs. MEC
January 6: Battle of Kashan (EJOD Desert) in Kashan, Iran - US-A vs. MEC
Libya
2012
May 15: Al Kufrah Oilfields in Al Kufrah District, Libya - US-A vs. MEC
Lebanon
2012
May 25: Battle of Beirut (Beirut) in Beirut, Lebanon - IDF vs. Russia
Abkhazia
2012
May 30: Siege at Ochamchira in Ochamchira, Abkhazia - UK vs. Militia
Georgia
2012
June 1: Operation Fools Road (Fools Road) in Caucasus Mountains, Georgia - UK vs. Militia
June 1: Battle of Mestia (Assault on Mestia) in Caucasus Mountains, Georgia - UK vs. Militia
June 3: Operation Dragonfly (Dragonfly) in Mestia, Georgia - UK vs. Militia
Russia
2012
June 26: Operation Iron Ridge (Iron Ridge) near Kozelsk, Russia - Russia vs. Militia
June 27: Battle of Kozelsk (Kozelsk) near Kozelsk, Russia - Russia vs. Militia
August 2: Operation Silent Eagle in Yamalia, Russia - Germany vs. Russia
August 5: Battle of Yamalia in Yamalia, Russia - Canada vs. Russia
China
2012
October 10: Seven Gates near Qinling Mountains, China - UK vs. PLA
October 13: Operation Ghost Train near Qinling Mountains, China - UK vs. PLA
October 14: Battle for Bi Ming (Bi Ming) in Bi Ming, China - UK vs. PLA
October 15: Battle for Qinling in Qinling Mountains, China - UK vs. PLA
October 25: Qwai River near Tad Sae, China - US-A vs. PLA
October 26: Battle of Tad Sae (Tad Sae) in Tad Sae, China - US-A vs. PLA
October 27: Battle of Sunset City (Sunset City) in Sunset City, China - USMC vs. PLA
December 16: Operation Barracuda somewhere in the Pacific Ocean - USMC vs. PLA
Korea
2013
February 4: Road to Kyongan-ni in Kyongan-ni, Korea - US-A vs. PLA

I also used the older maps that were removed in .9 but where in .87. I also added the unreleased faction, the Germans into their appropriate maps.

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 05:59
by Rezza
Good to read.I always wish that PR had stories for the maps like old times.It helped us get in the atmosphere.It also made it feel like not a Call of duty multiplayer map.Having a reason to fight was good.Whatever the Devs do we must agree because they did an amazing job.

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 08:52
by [k]MuffinMaster
archerfenris wrote: Rammstein Airforce Base
I didn't know they had an air force base... but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.



Just kidding...

Of course you are refering to Ramstein. (one M)

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 09:25
by Web_cole
archerfenris wrote:DMZ, Korea (China v. U.S.)- How cool would that be? Like Omaha beach PR style!
Now that sounds interesting :D

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 09:42
by Farks
Awesome! But no oil involved?

How about western powers (NATO, basically) trying to gain more power and influence over the middle eastern region and their oil production to secure their own interests in times of sky rocketing oil prices, unstable economy and an uncertain future? China, with its fast growing economy, soon get involved in the situation too, but takes a different stance, which makes the relationship between NATO countries and China go downhill.

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 11:47
by Beowulf2525
Farks wrote:Awesome! But no oil involved?

How about western powers (NATO, basically) trying to gain more power and influence over the middle eastern region and their oil production to secure their own interests in times of sky rocketing oil prices, unstable economy and an uncertain future? China, with its fast growing economy, soon get involved in the situation too, but takes a different stance, which makes the relationship between NATO countries and China go downhill.
Having the US and NATO allies fighting for oil is just bad taste. It implies the Western powers are capitalist pigs causing conflict for their own good. I prefer the idea of the US and NATO fighting the Central/SCO powers and then moving towards the oil fields because of the oil shortage caused by the war. I'm all for oil being a major part of the war, but by no means do I like the thought of the west declaring war and causing massive loss of life due to oil gaining. As bad as our Congress is at running an economy, they're not stupid enough to declare war over oil.

AND DON'T ANYBODY MENTION IRAQ!

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 11:50
by ChiefRyza
Beowulf2525 wrote:Having the US and NATO allies fighting for oil is just bad taste. It implies the Western powers are capitalist pigs causing conflict for their own good. I prefer the idea of the US and NATO fighting the Central/SCO powers and then moving towards the oil fields because of the oil shortage caused by the war. I'm all for oil being a major part of the war, but by no means do I like the thought of the west declaring war and causing massive loss of life due to oil gaining. As bad as our Congress is at running an economy, they're not stupid enough to declare war over oil.

AND DON'T ANYBODY MENTION IRAQ!
Our leaders aren't the most peaceful bunch...never forget what war does for one countries economy, World War 2 turned the United States into an economic super-power.

It's a very touchy subject, and extremely difficult to balance the blame if a war like this was to occur. It is always our leaders who make these decisions, one would hope the general population are a little more informed in modern times. I would never wish for it to occur in real life though, it makes for great gameplay but hell....with today's weaponry you could expect to live for a mere 10 minutes against another conventional army.

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 12:03
by Farks
Beowulf2525 wrote:Having the US and NATO allies fighting for oil is just bad taste. It implies the Western powers are capitalist pigs causing conflict for their own good. I prefer the idea of the US and NATO fighting the Central/SCO powers and then moving towards the oil fields because of the oil shortage caused by the war. I'm all for oil being a major part of the war, but by no means do I like the thought of the west declaring war and causing massive loss of life due to oil gaining. As bad as our Congress is at running an economy, they're not stupid enough to declare war over oil.

AND DON'T ANYBODY MENTION IRAQ!
Yeah, let's ignore the fact that it plays a vital part in global economy. The US is far from the only country to have a reason for fighting over oil.

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 13:55
by archerfenris
Beowulf2525 wrote:Having the US and NATO allies fighting for oil is just bad taste. It implies the Western powers are capitalist pigs causing conflict for their own good. I prefer the idea of the US and NATO fighting the Central/SCO powers and then moving towards the oil fields because of the oil shortage caused by the war. I'm all for oil being a major part of the war, but by no means do I like the thought of the west declaring war and causing massive loss of life due to oil gaining. As bad as our Congress is at running an economy, they're not stupid enough to declare war over oil.

AND DON'T ANYBODY MENTION IRAQ!
Yes it's bad taste and totally cliche. I prefer the fight to start over nuclear weapons, I mean, I don't even have to go very far to make israel and Iran fight so, why bring up oil?

A conventinal war would be very deadly but...I think you'd see the NATO forces know a thing or too about fighting that! I feel the MEC would be oblitterated in no time. Russia and China are a different story where the true world war will be fought, atleast in the situation in my head, because these two armies are better trained for conventinal war.

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 14:50
by Farks
MEC is supposed to be a well-equipped, well-trained military force capable of challenging NATO forces. That's why they're fictional.

And I'm not saying oil resources is the only reason to fight, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be irrelevant either.

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 14:58
by myles
Why would Britan be fighting the miltia and russia fightin the same mitlitia if there against each other?

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 15:09
by Hauteclocque
Erm...Since when Israel belongs to the NATO ? :shock:
I see you all listing Israel as a NATO country...yes there are on the side of NATO countries, but you can't say this...

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 15:35
by Excavus
[R-COM]Hauteclocque wrote:Erm...Since when Israel belongs to the NATO ? :shock:
I see you all listing Israel as a NATO country...yes there are on the side of NATO countries, but you can't say this...
Uh, in the PR world, I can say whatever I want.

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 15:56
by Smiddey723
[R-COM]Hauteclocque wrote:Erm...Since when Israel belongs to the NATO ? :shock:
I see you all listing Israel as a NATO country...yes there are on the side of NATO countries, but you can't say this...
Hey since Russia and Chechenya being on the same side, i think it is more than likely that Israel would join NATO in this fictional story

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 20:38
by Charliesierra-RCR
I Believe after serious amount of campaigns around the world, NATO is short for man power and just Nukes everyone leaving Canada to Claim the Artic and be on top of the world :twisted: :-D

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 21:01
by Beowulf2525
Farks wrote:And I'm not saying oil resources is the only reason to fight, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be irrelevant either.
I agree that it wouldn't be irrelevant. But I gathered from your previous post that you were implying that that was the sole, or major, reason the US and NATO declared war. I think a major conflict such as the expanse of PR would cause oil to become a reason for some battles, but I certainly don't think NATO or the US would declare war solely over oil.

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 21:07
by AdrwIvrsn
If anything, I think trying to come up with interesting combinations for forces would be better than keeping consistency and politicabiliy (I say it's a word). I still want to see MEC and China have their share of insurgency warfare, or assuming gameplay wouldn't be ruined, having two unconventional forces fight each other.

But of course, then it would make it even more fun for people like archerfenris to come up with a storyline to make everything connect together. :D

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 22:50
by alec89
Ok so what about Beirut? Russia invades Lebanon to..... make bases for making ground offensives onto Israel? Shouldnt Russia just drop a nuke on that little thing? lol.
And as my history knowledge tells me... Russia has been always on the "good guys" side of all world wars. :)

Re: Political Situation of the PR world

Posted: 2010-04-14 23:00
by alec89
Smiddey723 wrote:Hey since Russia and Chechenya being on the same side, i think it is more than likely that Israel would join NATO in this fictional story
I would be disgraced and insulted to have chechens on our side, they have nothing in common with us. They're just our colony :P And they hate our guts.

EDIT: Sorry for double post! Havent visited the forums lately.