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Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-12 21:36
by Haji with a Handgun
Or we just have a button that destroys kits.

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-12 22:03
by Zimmer
I think explosions can make you dead dead from wounded, dont know if a Frag is enough.

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-12 22:17
by Gosu-Rizzle
badmojo420 wrote:Right, I do that sometimes too. But it leaves you very vulnerable. I even got killed doing it the other night. The guy came back for his combat engineer kit just as I was coming back to his body to get my kit back, I put up my hands, but he didn't care. :p

What would be awesome is if we could just stand over the kit, hit a button and magically the kit turns into an unarmed kit. But, I doubt it's easily doable.
I would love it if we could have the incindys "kill" kits. Just throw one on a important kit you dont whant the enemy to get hands on. (HAT/LAT, SAW, engi etc.) That would add to gameplay (should i take the time to remove the kits and risk dying?) and would be realistic.
And the guy would need an evac/supplydrop if he gets revived since he will have an unarmed kit.

Thats all win if you ask me :smile:

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-12 22:24
by kaufman_23
0331SgtSpyUSMC wrote:You can also kill a person with one of those if you manage to hit him directly in the head :) (good luck with that) I'm not sure if it's a bug thou. Only works with incendiary.
yeah, that just happened to me yesterday. a guy wanted to trow an incindiary on a fob, and i run in front of him. i guess he trew that right on my head, and i was dead dead :(

is it possible to implement, if you knife a wounded person, he would become dead dead. i mean, if you bother to go to his body, expose ur self with a knife in your hands. i think you deserve that kill. i think that would bring some interesting situations into the game

random guy going from body to body knifing them :D

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-13 01:04
by Total_Overkill
Kain888 wrote:Any sources that conventional armies finish off wounded people?
Yes, i have plenty of sources... however, open legality of such an act is another issue

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-13 01:26
by dunem666
right clickk an incendinary grenande on the body

= dead dead

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-13 10:43
by PLODDITHANLEY
Would be nice to knife wounded people or kits me thinks?

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-13 11:44
by dtacs
PLODDITHANLEY wrote:Would be nice to knife wounded people or kits me thinks?
Would defeat the purpose of a medic, as you could just knife a squad to confirm ticket loss.

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-13 12:09
by PLODDITHANLEY
On TW/Mumble servers where a medic from another squad could come and get you agreed, but if the winning squad has the ability to calmly knife the wounded guys its unlikely if a medic could get them up anyway, and may reduce all that he's on my body now stuff and lone wolfing?

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-13 13:28
by Arnoldio
dtacs wrote:Would defeat the purpose of a medic, as you could just knife a squad to confirm ticket loss.
While doing that, you dont defend.

It balances itself out.

Also, if you knife all the squad, that means everybody was allready wounded and you're holding the area.

I dont se the problem here.

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-05-14 02:23
by goguapsy
About incendiaries... I was taking a picture while holding an incendiary. Accidently TKed one of my squad members and myself :(

Also was funny when I took out my teammate, ran for his med kit and died because I got his "limited kit"... lol

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-06-05 07:29
by wildbill6976
It would be preferable to just plug em in the head a few times, or run your bayonet through their neck. I prefer not waste c4, grenades, etc. Not sure on hard coding, but it's possibly a feature suggestion.

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-06-05 07:41
by dtacs
ChizNizzle wrote:While doing that, you dont defend.
Don't defend what? Your surroundings? 5 guys defend while one guy stabs the body, or the SL tasks one squad member with stabbing every body he sees.
It balances itself out.
Not really, an Insurgent kills 2 guys, knifes their bodies before the medic can get there and escapes.
Also, if you knife all the squad, that means everybody was allready wounded and you're holding the area.

I dont se the problem here.
Do you actually stay with the bodies of the enemies you killed until they either re-spawn or you get +1 to your kill counter? I highly doubt you, or anyone else for that matter, does.

Once you kill someone, you move on, may you be a sniper or just a grunt clearing a building.

I always have my squads operating in 2s so if they come across one guy they killed, one could knife while the other covers. To me, that seems incoherently unfair considering it defeats MAJORITY of the purpose of the medic. Obviously it doesn't apply if you killed a guy that you can't get to.

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-06-05 07:48
by myles
a moltov works but alos if you shoot a 50.cal to the head they become dead dead instanly

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-06-05 07:59
by wildbill6976
Well, its not really unfair. I mean if you're in a larger scale firefight, you probably wouldn't wanna take the time to finish everyone off. But when you're trying to be somewhat stealthy, I'd prefer just kill someone outright that having him be able to tell his teammates how many guys are running over his body and a good idea where they're going. (the downside of surround sound...). Besides that, it would be more realistic. If you took a clip to the chest, or a few shotgun blasts to the face, you're not gonna be wounded, let alone be able to call for a medic... and even if you do manage to utter a few words, its more likely you'll be calling for a chaplain...

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-06-05 12:10
by 009783232
dtacs wrote:Don't defend what? Your surroundings? 5 guys defend while one guy stabs the body, or the SL tasks one squad member with stabbing every body he sees.


Not really, an Insurgent kills 2 guys, knifes their bodies before the medic can get there and escapes.


Do you actually stay with the bodies of the enemies you killed until they either re-spawn or you get +1 to your kill counter? I highly doubt you, or anyone else for that matter, does.

Once you kill someone, you move on, may you be a sniper or just a grunt clearing a building.

I always have my squads operating in 2s so if they come across one guy they killed, one could knife while the other covers. To me, that seems incoherently unfair considering it defeats MAJORITY of the purpose of the medic. Obviously it doesn't apply if you killed a guy that you can't get to.
Medics have too much utility already, they should be stopping squads from bleeding to death, not resurrecting them.

Being able to kill the wounded would be an important feature that would be a balance between having healing capability, and preventing squad necroing.

At the moment, especially on insurgency, if an ambush fails to kill the entire squad, the ambush kills no one (purely because of medics).

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-06-05 13:09
by alberto_di_gio
Wouldn't it be fine to make possible to *dead dead* wounded by shooting? that possibility may cause people to be more cautious.

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-06-05 13:46
by Winstonkalkaros
Damn right. And people shot in the chest should be in critical condition and they should have less time to live.

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-06-05 15:15
by dtacs
009783232 wrote:Medics have too much utility already, they should be stopping squads from bleeding to death, not resurrecting them.

Being able to kill the wounded would be an important feature that would be a balance between having healing capability, and preventing squad necroing.

At the moment, especially on insurgency, if an ambush fails to kill the entire squad, the ambush kills no one (purely because of medics).
Sure, medics should be healing and people should be staying out of trouble, but its simply unreasonable that their reviving ability should be nullified due to a technicality.

Squad necroing is detrimental, I agree. However, it only occurs when one squad member is left. Today on that Ramiel round my squad was killed by a techy on that northern cache, and our medic was alive. He revived every one of us simply because they didn't do a body count, which I encourage in squad v squad situations.

@ the insurgency part: In molotovs we trust 8)

Re: Is it possible to dead-dead wounded person?

Posted: 2010-06-05 19:08
by myles
alberto_di_gio wrote:Wouldn't it be fine to make possible to *dead dead* wounded by shooting? that possibility may cause people to be more cautious.
You can if you shoot people in the head with a 50.cal they die instanly