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Re: Ability to pickup placed mines with 'G'

Posted: 2010-07-19 08:49
by Albatross
The original idea has merit ..

Re: Ability to pickup placed mines with 'G'

Posted: 2010-07-19 16:54
by Smiddey723
Commando_Jenkins wrote:Judging by this video, we don't have Apaches in Insurgency mode.
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Who said we had Apache's in Insurgency mode?

Judging by my post, it wasn't me. :roll:

Re: Ability to pickup placed mines with 'G'

Posted: 2010-07-19 21:52
by Hawkeye92
[R-CON]Rudd wrote:strange, I wasn't aware the taliban or insurgents had EOD experts

if the things were so easy to diffuse and more I think our problems in Afghanistan would be much less :)

and all because a dude is capable of burying a bomb and making sure the mobile phone aerial is above the ground without blowing himself up does not necessarily mean he is the one that made the bomb, nor does he know how to disarm it.

Judging by the rapidly growing sophistication of IED's being encountered by Coalition forces in Afghanistan, I think its safe to say that Insurgent knowledge of explosives is sufficient. Many IED's in Afghanistan are home made with household materials. The insurgents often build them on their own. I believe it is very plausible that an Insurgent could have the ability to remove a mine, especially one with a pressure plate designed for heavy vehicles.

Re: Ability to pickup placed mines with 'G'

Posted: 2010-07-20 02:08
by a0jer
YouTube - Grenade throwing fail Granatenwurf Fail
judging by this video coalition forces should have 999 deviation for throwing grenades.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji7SE8DQsbc
judging by this video all taliban should have m21s, m4s and m249s


This is an example of why not to use youtube videos as a reliable source.

Re: Ability to pickup placed mines with 'G'

Posted: 2010-07-20 06:32
by ytman
a0jer wrote:YouTube - Grenade throwing fail Granatenwurf Fail
judging by this video coalition forces should have 999 deviation for throwing grenades.
No. Judging by the video there was no 'deviation'. Instead the grenade was thrown into a tree and bounced back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji7SE8DQsbc
judging by this video all taliban should have m21s, m4s and m249s
No. Judging by the above video Taliban should be able to pick up weapons of dead soldiers. (Duh)

Not that I disagree with the ability to pick up IEDs... I just think it should take a good while to pick them up instead of being instant. Also, the Arty Shell should not be picked up (unless you want to risk a detonation), and the Mine IED should not be picked up (unless they make it so a Humvee and lighter don't set it off). Claymores either. So then basically the gunpowder bomb gets picked up.

Re: Ability to pickup placed mines with 'G'

Posted: 2010-07-21 02:12
by Rudd
Hawkeye92 wrote:Judging by the rapidly growing sophistication of IED's being encountered by Coalition forces in Afghanistan, I think its safe to say that Insurgent knowledge of explosives is sufficient. Many IED's in Afghanistan are home made with household materials. The insurgents often build them on their own. I believe it is very plausible that an Insurgent could have the ability to remove a mine, especially one with a pressure plate designed for heavy vehicles.
I understand fireworks, and can build them, doesn't mean I'm gonna go picking them up if they fail to blow up once I light the fuse.

its a bomb, its designed to kill people, its designed to blow up, its not designed to be defused

Re: Ability to pickup placed mines with 'G'

Posted: 2010-07-21 02:25
by Ome99
[R-CON]Rudd wrote:strange, I wasn't aware the taliban or insurgents had EOD experts

if the things were so easy to diffuse and more I think our problems in Afghanistan would be much less :)

and all because a dude is capable of burying a bomb and making sure the mobile phone aerial is above the ground without blowing himself up does not necessarily mean he is the one that made the bomb, nor does he know how to disarm it.
Actually, insurgents are more than intelligent in this matter, they make thir own explosives, their own detnators, etc....

And what you say about bluefor having hard time with them is irrelvent, because they didn't make the IED's and mines, and didn't place them, they first have to know they are there, then after locating them, they have to figure out how to diffuse an IED which they don't know the way it works (because they didn't make it), while the insurgents would know where to find them, because they implanted them, and know how to diffuse them, because they are the ones who made them.