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darkside12 wrote: I'm no military guru, but I don't think there's an armor package on a MBT in the world right now that can withstand the SABOTs the M1 shoots. And if one is carrying the armor to withstand it, it's a heavy package and it'll probably be on the front. So that means the tank would be heavy and slow.

darkside12 wrote:I'm no military guru, but I don't think there's an armor package on a MBT in the world right now that can withstand the SABOTs the M1 shoots.

Kim Jong ill wrote:You're right, you are no military guru and it shows quite well. 5 Minutes of research would've told you that a little tank by the name of the M1 Abrams has shown to be able to sustain front and side direct hits from friend 120mm rounds, but of course it's slow and heavy ops:

On the other hand, treads aren't as fast as wheels, so the maximum speed of a tank is about 65 km/h (72 for the Abrams M1). The extreme weight of vehicles of this type (60-70 tons) also limits their speed.

source: Main battle tank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (I know, not the best source)

..the added protection from the depleted uranium armor is believed to be equivalent to 24 inches (610 mm) of RHA. The strength of the armor is estimated to be about the same as similar western, contemporary main battle tanks such as the Leopard 2. In the Persian Gulf War, Abrams tanks survived multiple hits at relatively close ranges from Iraqi Lion of Babylon tanks and ATGMs. M829A1 "Silver Bullet" APFSDS rounds from other M1A1 Abrams were unable to penetrate the front and side armor (even at close ranges) in friendly fire incidents as well as an incident in which another Abrams tried to destroy an Abrams that got stuck in mud and had to be abandoned.

DesmoLocke wrote:You're kidding about it being slow right?

mat552 wrote:Hehe, you're probably screwed either way with a HEAT inside a building.

If the wall's too thin, the blast punches through, showering you in bits of rebar and expanding gases.
If the wall's too thick, the blast becomes focused until the pressure can find an escape. If you happen to be between it and a window or weaker wall... There's a reason they tried to blow up Hitler inside his reinforced bunker.

darkside12 wrote:Personally, I think the tanks weapons systems are a bit unbalance, as a M1 Abrams or Challenger 2 would knock out any Soviet era tanks in 1 shot. And on some maps the OPFOR tanks could probably get the BLUFOR tanks in 1 shot since they're upgraded models. Still, I don't like that it usually takes a MINIMUM of 3 shots to kill an opposing tank. That's definately not very realistic.

darkside12 wrote:Personally, I think the tanks weapons systems are a bit unbalance, as a M1 Abrams or Challenger 2 would knock out any Soviet era tanks in 1 shot. And on some maps the OPFOR tanks could probably get the BLUFOR tanks in 1 shot since they're upgraded models. Still, I don't like that it usually takes a MINIMUM of 3 shots to kill an opposing tank. That's definately not very realistic.

Turner wrote:War isnt about being balanced, its about having the upper hand, so its very realistic

[R-MOD]Thermis wrote:PR is all about asymmetrical balance, we can't be 100% realistic. We have gameplay to think about. It's impossible to be completely authentic, but we try to get close and keep it fun at the same time.