[Faction Proposal] Islamic Republic of Iran Army [Again]

[ComradeChaos]

An Iran fighting neighboring Arabs isnt hard to imagine.

Few pics from Sacred Defense Week 2010

[[IS-DEV]Nick]

Top picture looks like the DPV from VBF2

I'll look into that.

[HangMan_]

I'd rather add Iran to the MEC then replace the MEC with Iran at this point but I'm actually rather interested to see what ya come up with.

Really? The Iranians are not Arabs, and would totally not fit into the MEC at all. They are aryans, and are disliked by most of the countries that are meant to make up our MEC faction. Its like saying lets blend all the central european factions together because they are all in the same region.

I don't think the MEC should be replaced with Iran either, as i've stated above they are totally different. If anything they should stand as two totally different warring factions.

I do agree that we should wait and see what comes out of this though

HangMan

[Rudd]

Really? The Iranians are not Arabs, and would totally not fit into the MEC at all. They are aryans, and are disliked by most of the countries that are meant to make up our MEC faction. Its like saying lets blend all the central european factions together because they are all in the same region.

the MEC is fictional, who knows what could have happened?

I'm looking at it from a modding perspective, make a new team, new coding for that team, new everything for that team, thats new textures new everything...when you could just add iranian textures to some or all vehicles that are going in to teh MEC arsenal?....less work...same gameplay

also there is a certain virtue of having fiction, as it stops us being completely inhibited.

[Drunkenup]

the MEC is fictional, who knows what could have happened?

I'm looking at it from a modding perspective, make a new team, new coding for that team, new everything for that team, thats new textures new everything...when you could just add iranian textures to some or all vehicles that are going in to teh MEC arsenal?....less work...same gameplay

also there is a certain virtue of having fiction, as it stops us being completely inhibited.

Actually more diversion and less commonalities from the MEC faction would be better for gameplay. You wouldn't want to be playing MEC one round and Iran the next finding out the only difference they have is uniforms and flags. PR is meant to be fun, and if this new team wants to prosper, theres gotta be some worthwhile work being put in there.

Plus having the MEC fictional helps us, a theoretical conflict between Iran would help the storyline.

[ComradeChaos]

the MEC is fictional, who knows what could have happened?

I'm looking at it from a modding perspective, make a new team, new coding for that team, new everything for that team, thats new textures new everything...when you could just add iranian textures to some or all vehicles that are going in to teh MEC arsenal?....less work...same gameplay

also there is a certain virtue of having fiction, as it stops us being completely inhibited.

So why even develop more OPFORs?

[ChiefRyza]

Because they will be vastly different to eachother? The ARF should be an example of a very unique OPFOR, and the Russians were a brilliant implementation. I can't really see MEC and Iran being that unique from each other though, besides a few guns here and there. Focusing on building the assets on the current MEC faction would make more sense. I would like to see the massive number of community factions currently in the works to get the work done on them instead of a new bunch being suggested all the time. Not to say this can't work, but for the near future it seems like a very time consuming venture that won't be realized for a very, very long time. Look at every other community faction, they simply can't be achieved in a short time frame.

[ComradeChaos]

Just a quick pick to the design plan, Mi-8 is hardly used by Iran. IIRC they have like 2.

[Tim270]

Islamic Republic of Iran Armed Forces - Official thread

^ big thread of refs if you ever need them.

[[IS-DEV]Nick]

Islamic Republic of Iran Armed Forces - Official thread

^ big thread of refs if you ever need them.

Cheers Tim, they should be useful.

Just a quick pick to the design plan, Mi-8 is hardly used by Iran. IIRC they have like 2.

Replaced the MI-8 with the Panha Shabaviz 2-75, which is basically a license built single engine UH-1. Iran operate around 100 of them (according to wikipedia). A reskinned UH-1D from EOD would look exactly the same so that's the way to go.

Some terrible quality images. Observe the UH-1D style engine block.






EDIT: Something I found on the thread Tim posted - New Iranian smart-bombs!

[The Iron Dreamer]

Islamic Republic of Iran Armed Forces - Official thread

^ big thread of refs if you ever need them.

After looking at that I have the feeling that this will be a cool faction cos it has as much Western, Russian and home made tech...

[[IS-DEV]Nick]

An Iran fighting neighboring Arabs isnt hard to imagine.

Few pics from Sacred Defense Week 2010

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Holy **** -- just noticed the miniguns! Dayummmm!

[Rudd]

Actually more diversion and less commonalities from the MEC faction would be better for gameplay. You wouldn't want to be playing MEC one round and Iran the next finding out the only difference they have is uniforms and flags. PR is meant to be fun, and if this new team wants to prosper, theres gotta be some worthwhile work being put in there.

if this new team

thats the problem mate, making a new team is very time consuming and even if done by a Comfac increases the workload on the PR Dev team, especially the coders.

featuring the MEC as a aligned bunch of middle eastern states including iranian technology would be good for gameplay, including vehicles/whatever with iranian skins in the same way that the USA provide bradleys for the USMC on fallujah, or think of them as the paratrooper version.

we could even delete the MEC woodland textures we've never used and replace those with iranian textures so we could mix the camo in, or replace some of the MEC body textures with iranian textures for diversity within that team.

Comfacs are all well and good, but there is friction whenever workload starts coming off the comfac team and on to the DEV team, PR is incredibly high maintainence atm due to the number of assets and teams already. Adding Iranian aspects to teh MEC would give new flavour to teh game without the need of a new team.

[[IS-DEV]Nick]

What you're saying there is very true Rudd. Also, after a bit of research it seems that the std. Iranian Army infantry are very, very close to the MEC in terms of equipment. I think that right now the best thing to do would be to create an IRGC faction as opposed to IRIA. The IRGC are equipped mainly with Chinese Norinco CQs and Khaybars, and operate as an entity separate from the main army. In a world war type scenario they'd be sure to exert some force, plus their equipment and structure makes them very unique.

[BroCop]

Time for this to be officially a mini COMFAC just like the PLAN Marines (whatever happened to that tho)

[samogon100500]

Even though its a bit early to discuss exact assets, I think the jets you've suggested would make aviation in the Iranian faction awfully repetitive.

The F-14 and F-4 wouldn't make good choices at all since both are outdated and aren't in Iranian service in higher numbers. The F-4 is a third generation fighter, its far older than any other aircraft in PR, and the F-14 (according to wikipedia) is in service with only 20 operational etc etc......

I agree F5,but not F14 as ONE seat fighter,anyway MiG29 have not better model...
As Bomber(2 seat) is F4 cuz they r 2 seat multi-role jet,what hes have!
As Attack jet Su25 cuz hes ho have any other attack jets.

P.S Su24 are heavy 2 seat bomber like Su34!
About Mi8 they have Mi8MTV modification only -
Iran army + Syrian army + Iraq army + any middle east army(Same,like in ArmA2 OA but with MG3 and G3)
Syrian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Just an idea - do not replace MEC team,just add them Iran made stuff!Iran have not so many vehicles to defend hes lands against angry BLUFORs team...
An Muttrah city placed on Oman country?Why not just update MEC team and rename this if needed.
Iran army + Syrian army + Iraq army + any middle east army etc.
Syrian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Make all world fractions is impossible - not needed
For example - why not make Ukraine army or Georgian or Kazakhstan?
They similar with russian army,but have different Camo on vehicles and not small weapon diffirence!

[ComradeChaos]

Nick;1449839']What you're saying there is very true Rudd. Also, after a bit of research it seems that the std. Iranian Army infantry are very, very close to the MEC in terms of equipment. I think that right now the best thing to do would be to create an IRGC faction as opposed to IRIA. The IRGC are equipped mainly with Chinese Norinco CQs and Khaybars, and operate as an entity separate from the main army. In a world war type scenario they'd be sure to exert some force, plus their equipment and structure makes them very unique.

Could do some insurgency-AAS hybrid maps with IRGC.

[KingLorre]

Nick;1449800']Cheers Tim, they should be useful.
EDIT: Something I found on the thread Tim posted - New Iranian smart-bombs!

They cant be that smart since it says Retard, Lol.

[ComradeChaos]

They cant be that smart since it says Retard, Lol.

Retard like "slow down". But the lols ensue anyway.

[Ayyash]

Hello.
Way back when there was another attempt to inject Iran as a faction in PR, i was brought on board as someone who knows a fair amount about the Iranian military in addition to playing PR.

One concern i'm seeing is that the Iran faction would essentially just be a re-skinned MEC with no unique 'flavor'. One way to prevent this from being the case is to focus on the IRGC as a faction in-and-of-itself rather then the Iranian army as a whole. The IRGC has a very unique defensive doctrine that emphasizes light infantry with high mobility over the mechanization found more traditionally built armies (such as pre-2003 Iraq or the warsaw pact).

One way to employ this principle in game would be to include more light vehicles over heavy ones and empower kits with "anti-" technology such as the anti-tank infantry. Of course i'm just spitballing at this point and there are many ways one could work this out in in-game mechanics.

I'll be looking through the thread later tonight and hopefully i'll be able to give some more suggestions

-Ayyash