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Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-09-27 19:10
by JohnnyTheIED
Like Bane said, its extremely hard to screw anything up while building even your first rig. 95% of the job is choosing the right parts. Then 4% is the chance of getting a bad part (reduce it to 1% if you go with quality components) and 1% is the actual build.

I built my first rig about 7 years ago, with absolutely no knowledge of nothing else then video cards. After a few weeks of intensive reading, checking out reviews, benchmarks and chatting it up with experts or sellers, I ended up with a rig worth 3000+ $ that never failed me. I paid 1008$ in total.

7-8 yrs later my mother board finally failed it on me but I abused that baby long enough. OCin, moves and moves, lack of care. And I could still just replace the mobo for 15-30$ if I wanted to. But as flashy and kick-*** my P4 2.4 was back then, its outdated now. lol.

The hardest (most stressful) part of building a computer is setting up the CPU, and that takes like 10 mins if you fully read the instructions. Then if youve already changed RAM in your box youve already pretty much got all the experience you need to build a rig. lol.

I remember what took me the most time while building my rig was to place all the small pins from the CASE into the MOBO to get the front panels working, it was a pain in the a** as each pin is like a needle that goes straight unto the board once installed. And I saw that the new MOBOs figured that out, now you got a neat little white extension on which you plug all these comfortably to then later on clamp that extension in 5 seconds. On the ASUS ones atleast. (I wouldnt go nothing else then ASUS when talking mobos)

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-09-30 23:18
by Rabbit
JohnnyTheIED wrote:*smacks head on desk*

I could soooooo use that 200 lol.

And going with dell with not be 200 wasted, more like 400.

*takes best Joe Pesci lethal weapon Leo Getz voice*

They F*** you with the parts!!! They f*** you with the parts!!! And then they f*** you some more with the assembly costs!!

lol

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Seriously dude, for 1200$ You can get much better then that Dell thing.

What Id get?


AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
Newegg.ca - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

-170$


ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Newegg.ca - ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

-150$


CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9

-170$ after 20$ mail in rebate


XFX HD-587X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX
Newegg.ca - XFX HD-587X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

-405$

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So far thats about 900$.

SSD, BOX and PSU - 350-400$

So thats about 1300$ for a rig that will litteraly EAT that DELL one for breakfast. lol.

Just think about it, 3.4ghz quad core, 8 gigs of ddr3 (with possibility to double it later on), HD5870 with a SSD.

You will run any game throwed at you for a few years. Crysis, Arma2... You name it.

*disclaime, choices just as indication that building a rig yourself = much cheaper and better quality in the end*
What would be a good SSD? looking for one around 1tb memory... I'll still need a box, power supply and sound card. Also do you know any boxes that have hdmi?

Also I'm going with the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814161329 Does anyone know how the promo codes work there?

Or would the XFX HD-585X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity be just fine to run Arma 2 on high?

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 01:12
by Rabbit
ok here is my new pre-build now.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

Newegg.ca - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

Newegg.ca - ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop

Newegg.ca - CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9

Video
A. Newegg.com - HIS H587FN1GD Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
B. Or would the XFX HD-585X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

Need power supply (looking for a good one around $80) SSD (1tb preferred) Good quiet tower with hdmi (never seen one, probably dont exist)

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 11:06
by JohnnyTheIED
gx wrote:ok here is my new pre-build now.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

Newegg.ca - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

Newegg.ca - ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop

Newegg.ca - CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9

Video
A. Newegg.com - HIS H587FN1GD Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
B. Or would the XFX HD-585X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

Need power supply (looking for a good one around $80) SSD (1tb preferred) Good quiet tower with hdmi (never seen one, probably dont exist)
Thats pretty much what Im getting as well :P Theres a nice combo deal on the 89GTD mobo and the CPU right now at newegg.

Few tips:

Power supply - Modular (amazing to get rid of unecessary cables) and dont go cheap, minimum 600w. 80% certified. People often forget that this is the REAL heart of your machine. Go cheap on the PSU and everything will get unstable, perhaps even damage itself in the process. Dont go for anything shiny, the only thing that matters is the juice is produces and the stability it offers. Noise level is something to look at as well. Big fans = less noise.

SSD or RAM - Do not, I repeat, Do not go with OCZ. Apparentely OCZ as been exploiting their brand name lately, shipping out extremely cheap and unreliable products. Anything related to RAM and SSD has terrible feedback. 1 out of 2 sticks of RAM being faulty. SS drives going KIA after 3months-1year. Id suggest you to save money and only go for a 60-120gb SSD, Anyways you will want a good old SATA drive to keep all the important files and download data. Keep your SSD nice and clean, just for games.

Corsair seems to be one of the old players still producing quality products. The corsair RAM has great feedback from all types of systems.

Also, Another good point to take into consideration : Aftermarket CPU cooling.

Zalman offers amazing CPU heatsinks and silent fans but they do take some space.

Newegg.com - ZALMAN CNPS9900ALED 120mm 2 Ball Low-noise Blue LED CPU Cooler

This one is recommended by experts on the M4a89gtd pro -usb3 users ASUS forums. And fits like a glove in the small CPU space of that specific mobo.

Running temps are also said to be astonishing with this cooler. Weither your planning to Overclock or not, Its always good to have temps LOW for the lifetime and long term stability it offers. Also the Phenomx4 or x6 included fans and heatsink are said to be OK but nothing further than that, can get pretty hot.

For the Video Card Id say unless you reaaaaally wanna have the top framerates extra high settings with bells and whistles on the most demanding games, go with a 5830 :) Its like 215$ and offers really good quality. And dont go cheap on the makers either. Theres a reason why they offer it at smaller prices.

Id say youre alot safer with a 5830 or 5850 from a company like ASUS, Saphirre then a 5870 from HIS, powercolor or whatever other small company out there that offers value GFX. EVGA lifetime warranty is quite nice too if you end up going with a Nvidia. Remember to register if you take something with lifetime warranty.

Oh and PS: If you want a nice cheap mid-tower, Go check out ANTEC tree hundred illusion. Offers superb air cooling (with 4 fans included), stylish and cheap. Its like 60$. Im getting the Tree Hundred locally tho, and they dont have the illusion pack with the extra fans :( However Ill save on the shipping and eventual shipping troubles if anything isnt right.

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 13:06
by BloodBane611
I've heard bad things about XFX - using low quality materials for the boards of their GPUs, which then degrade, screwing up your GPU in the process. People with this problem have said that XFX won't return emails for customer support, and their phone operators just give them the run-around. I don't know if that was limited to the 5770 line or what, but I'd recommend going with a more trustworthy brand name.

Also, I wouldn't buy any important parts for your build that don't have 5 stars on newegg, unless you really look through the reviews and figure out why they're rated lower.

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 16:32
by Rabbit
For the case I think I'm going with the Newegg.com - RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case
Also why should I get an SSD and not this? Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1501FASS 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive I do need the space. Also it has a deal right now with this power supply that I am enjoying. Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

Finally I'm still having a hard time picking the right video card and company. I mean I do believe no matter what people are more likely to go back and post a bad review than a good one, so the low numbers must be an excellent thing. Also how do you check compatibility with parts?

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 17:26
by BloodBane611
gx wrote:Finally I'm still having a hard time picking the right video card and company. I mean I do believe no matter what people are more likely to go back and post a bad review than a good one, so the low numbers must be an excellent thing. Also how do you check compatibility with parts?
Look at the reviews of good cards - they will be something like 45-60% 5 stars, another 10-25% 4 stars. You want ones with large numbers of reviews (high statistical sample) and good ratings. It's not a science, but going for ones with few reviews but high stars will probably lead you to companies like XFX, which is a bad road.

As far as Solid State Drives go, the thing they have over regular HDDs is speed. They will load everything faster (not as fast as RAM, but still very quick), faster than even the highest end HDD. Check this review out: The SSD Anthology: Understanding SSDs and New Drives from OCZ - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News . Anand Lal Shimpi is a fair god in the SSD review sector, the amount of knowledge he has is quite astounding. If you scroll down you will see the speed comparison between the Intel XM-25 (over 1.5 years old now) and western digital's VelociRaptor, which is a 10,000 RPM drive (faster than what you're looking at). The SSD is 50 times faster than the HDD in random read speed. Basically, you'll notice a big difference, but it's expensive, and they have a limited life span (5-10 years depending on the drive and your usage).


tl :d r - buy GPUs with a large number of good reviews on newegg, if you have the $$ for an SSD and want the speed get one

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 17:34
by Rabbit
'[R-MOD wrote:BloodBane611;1454523']Look at the reviews of good cards - they will be something like 45-60% 5 stars, another 10-25% 4 stars. You want ones with large numbers of reviews (high statistical sample) and good ratings. It's not a science, but going for ones with few reviews but high stars will probably lead you to companies like XFX, which is a bad road.

As far as Solid State Drives go, the thing they have over regular HDDs is speed. They will load everything faster (not as fast as RAM, but still very quick), faster than even the highest end HDD. Check this review out: The SSD Anthology: Understanding SSDs and New Drives from OCZ - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News . Anand Lal Shimpi is a fair god in the SSD review sector, the amount of knowledge he has is quite astounding. If you scroll down you will see the speed comparison between the Intel XM-25 (over 1.5 years old now) and western digital's VelociRaptor, which is a 10,000 RPM drive (faster than what you're looking at). The SSD is 50 times faster than the HDD in random read speed. Basically, you'll notice a big difference, but it's expensive, and they have a limited life span (5-10 years depending on the drive and your usage).


tl :d r - buy GPUs with a large number of good reviews on newegg, if you have the $$ for an SSD and want the speed get one
I don't mean low number reviews but high stars, I mean seeing lets say 110 5 eggs and 7 bad eggs isn't probably as bad as one would assume due to people are MORE likely to go back and write a review only if it's negative (I am guilty of this). Also the main problem for me is the SSD seems to be lacking on space, I take pictures for a living, I need to the space.

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 18:35
by JohnnyTheIED
gx wrote:I don't mean low number reviews but high stars, I mean seeing lets say 110 5 eggs and 7 bad eggs isn't probably as bad as one would assume due to people are MORE likely to go back and write a review only if it's negative (I am guilty of this). Also the main problem for me is the SSD seems to be lacking on space, I take pictures for a living, I need to the space.
Well its not because you get a SSD that you cant plug in a huge monsterous SATA drive as well.

Just use the SSD for your Windows and game. All the rest goes in the SATA drives.

There is absolutely no need for a huge Solid State drive. To explain you shortly, Games like PR and Arma2 rely alot on information written on the disk. Hence your CPU and drive Speeds have alot to do with the sharpness of your game. A SSD has a reading speed of <1ms. Most Sata drives are >7ms. So that means everytime the game reads on the SSdrive, it gets the information almost instantly, hence, no more spikes.

As far as graphic cards, dont smack your head on the walls for nothing.

ASUS or Saphirre.

Also, Im curious, Whats your job? I thought photojournalism was almost dead, must be commercial?

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 19:14
by Rabbit
JohnnyTheIED wrote:Well its not because you get a SSD that you cant plug in a huge monsterous SATA drive as well.

Just use the SSD for your Windows and game. All the rest goes in the SATA drives.

There is absolutely no need for a huge Solid State drive. To explain you shortly, Games like PR and Arma2 rely alot on information written on the disk. Hence your CPU and drive Speeds have alot to do with the sharpness of your game. A SSD has a reading speed of <1ms. Most Sata drives are >7ms. So that means everytime the game reads on the SSdrive, it gets the information almost instantly, hence, no more spikes.

As far as graphic cards, dont smack your head on the walls for nothing.

ASUS or Saphirre.

Also, Im curious, Whats your job? I thought photojournalism was almost dead, must be commercial?
No portrait. Not doing to bad right now winter is of course what really hurts me though.

If I did get the hard drive I listed what SSD do think think I should get? Would one with less memory work due to having more in my harddrive? how would I switch inbetween the two?

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 19:15
by BloodBane611
gx wrote:I don't mean low number reviews but high stars, I mean seeing lets say 110 5 eggs and 7 bad eggs isn't probably as bad as one would assume due to people are MORE likely to go back and write a review only if it's negative (I am guilty of this). Also the main problem for me is the SSD seems to be lacking on space, I take pictures for a living, I need to the space.
Ah, yeah, I read your post in my own messed up way ;)

Certainly a few bad eggs shouldn't color your decision too much, I agree that people are more likely to go back to write a review for a bad time than a good one.


As far as the SSD - it shouldn't be your primary drive for storage, it's just for specific things like your OS, games, anything else you want to be able to access really fast (i.e. fast boot times, higher ingame framerates because you don't need your HDD to spin to the right spot on the platters). If you're going to have an SSD, you really need a standard HDD in addition. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

I just built a computer with a 7200 RPM drive and I have no complaints playing PR:BF2 on it. If you move on to ArmA or other more memory intensive games the SSD can be a real gamemaker, but it's certainly not necessary

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 20:07
by Rabbit
[R-MOD]BloodBane611 wrote:Ah, yeah, I read your post in my own messed up way ;)

Certainly a few bad eggs shouldn't color your decision too much, I agree that people are more likely to go back to write a review for a bad time than a good one.


As far as the SSD - it shouldn't be your primary drive for storage, it's just for specific things like your OS, games, anything else you want to be able to access really fast (i.e. fast boot times, higher ingame framerates because you don't need your HDD to spin to the right spot on the platters). If you're going to have an SSD, you really need a standard HDD in addition. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

I just built a computer with a 7200 RPM drive and I have no complaints playing PR:BF2 on it. If you move on to ArmA or other more memory intensive games the SSD can be a real gamemaker, but it's certainly not necessary
As for building my computer what would I need to have it run 2 hard drives (hard drive and ssd). Also I do I go back and forth on them to use one and not the other, does it automatically switch between the 2 or does it use both at the same time?

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 20:29
by JohnnyTheIED
gx wrote:No portrait. Not doing to bad right now winter is of course what really hurts me though.

If I did get the hard drive I listed what SSD do think think I should get? Would one with less memory work due to having more in my harddrive? how would I switch inbetween the two?
Theres no switch needed. Your drives will look as follow.

C:\
D:\
E:\


When you will be playing the game it will automaticly go search for the information on the drive its installed on.

Same for your pictures or data. They will be stored where you decide to store them when uploading them.

You just gotta make sure your SSD is big enough for the said game + windows. IMO 60gb is more then enough already. Think of it as a huge stick of RAM thats actually big enough to fit the whole game installer on it.

Look for specs, compare prices and the READ-WRITE speeds. The faster the better. Then check reviews and feedback on those interesting you.

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 21:05
by Baafen
Here is how it works with multiple hard drives and SSD.

A normal hard drive uses disks that it stores it?s data on and then a "arm" have to move around to the right point to read the data it needs to read.

A SSD is flash based so it has no moving parts and because of that it?s really really fast.

If you watch YouTube - SweClockers jämfor SSD mot HDD and jump to about 2:30. You will see when he boots up two computers. One using a normal hdd and one with a ssd. (SSD is the screen to the left) and as you can see it loads windows, photshop, ie and media center faster than a normal hdd can even load windows itself. But in this test they use one of the more expensive and better models. But the difference is very noticeable even with less expensive models.


About having two hard drives. All computer cases have spots for several hard drives and most if not all motherboards have at least 2 or 3 SATA ports. But 5 or 6 ports is not uncommon. That means you can have 6 hard drives using SATA. So you connect the hard drive you plan to install your OS to into SATA port 1 and then the other hard drive into the next SATA port.

But here is a tip: When you first build your computer. Mount all your hard drives. But don?t plugin power and the SATA cable into any other hard drive than the one you want to install your OS on. In this case the SSD drive. Now install your OS. When this is done and you got drivers installed and internet working etc. Shutdown your computer and connect power and SATA cables to your other hard drive(s) and start it up again. Now you can inside of windows format these drives and use them for storage.

The idea is to install OS and games and maybe some applications that needs to load fast on your SSD because it?s superior in speed. But be sure to think about what really needs to be on your SSD drive.

You use your normal hard drive(s) to store stuff like images, music, movies, documents etc. And also those games and apps that doesn?t need a fast hard drive or those that you don?t use very often.

I hope this will clear some things for you :razz:

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 21:09
by Rabbit

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 23:05
by BloodBane611
Your SSD and your HDD are entirely separate, no need to worry about compatibility between the two. As long as you have enough SATA (and that mobo has 6) you're fine.

As far as recommending a drive, I do it with a bit of trepidation. Ultimately, an SSD is a big investment, and you need to balance your desires with your budget. However, here's what I would get: Newegg.com - Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

That is a very well rated drive, it's fast and large, and even fairly cheap in terms of $/gb. Also, 64 GB is about correct IMO - 8 GB for your windows install, another 8 for BF2 + PR, and that leaves you with 48 GB for other games. If you pick up ArmA II that space will be invaluable, some people are reporting that their ArmA II + OA installs are ridiculously large with mods, like 20-30 GB. Base size with just ArmA II + OA is something like 15 GB I believe. If you buy the C300 you won't have to worry about managing the space on your SSD nearly as much as you would with a smaller drive, and it's a high-quality drive which won't give you trouble.

I can't really recommend anything smaller honestly, reviews just aren't that good. If you're willing to take a bit of a risk you can buy a 32 gb drive from a less respected manufacturer for about $90, but I personally thing the C300 is a much better investment.



The rest of your build looks really solid, looks like you've figured out the combo deals at that price?

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-01 23:10
by Rabbit
'[R-MOD wrote:BloodBane611;1454790']Your SSD and your HDD are entirely separate, no need to worry about compatibility between the two. As long as you have enough SATA (and that mobo has 6) you're fine.

As far as recommending a drive, I do it with a bit of trepidation. Ultimately, an SSD is a big investment, and you need to balance your desires with your budget. However, here's what I would get: Newegg.com - Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

That is a very well rated drive, it's fast and large, and even fairly cheap in terms of $/gb. Also, 64 GB is about correct IMO - 8 GB for your windows install, another 8 for BF2 + PR, and that leaves you with 48 GB for other games. If you pick up ArmA II that space will be invaluable, some people are reporting that their ArmA II + OA installs are ridiculously large with mods, like 20-30 GB. Base size with just ArmA II + OA is something like 15 GB I believe. If you buy the C300 you won't have to worry about managing the space on your SSD nearly as much as you would with a smaller drive, and it's a high-quality drive which won't give you trouble.

I can't really recommend anything smaller honestly, reviews just aren't that good. If you're willing to take a bit of a risk you can buy a 32 gb drive from a less respected manufacturer for about $90, but I personally thing the C300 is a much better investment.

I'm checking out the rest of your build now, I'll edit this post when I'm done
C300 is definitely cheap in my view, so great find, helps me a lot. :D

Edit: Yup, most of them are rebates that will put me at about 1201 before shipping. I'm still going to wait to have someone give it a look over as 2 opinions are better than one, nothing against you of course after all your help. :)

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-02 04:40
by Rabbit
Stupid question but aren't I missing a disk drive to be able to put a disk in?

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-02 11:07
by BloodBane611
Yeah, I thought about that yesterday but assumed you'd just pop one in from an old computer or something :o ops:

You'll definitely need one, pretty hard to install windows without one :)

Re: Help with my new build.

Posted: 2010-10-02 16:05
by JohnnyTheIED
[R-MOD]BloodBane611 wrote:Yeah, I thought about that yesterday but assumed you'd just pop one in from an old computer or something :o ops:

You'll definitely need one, pretty hard to install windows without one :)
I remember installing my first SATA drive when it just came out, was a PITA and you definitely needed an IDE drive. But I dont think you need to do the same with SSD drive as you install it directly on the ssd drive, the mobo is already sata 3 ready so I dont think it should be too hard.

Anyways as you said, it goes without saying that he puts in his old HDD as well.

EDIT: OH damn sorry, Was drinking my coffee as I was reading, thought he ment HD not DVD drive.. lollll soooory

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As for your system GX it looks pretty neat. Personaly I wouldnt go for a case with 80mm fans as they have to run faster then 120mms and get get pretty noisy/dirty quick as they get older. But the case looks pretty interesting with that mobo panel fold out design. Thats a sh*tload of small fans tho, lol. Theres going to be alot of wires going in every direction when you open the panel. Just be carefull when you open that mobo panel for future upgrades or cleaning.

As I said earlier dont count too much on the rebates, mail in rebates are designed to be complicated and tricky, time consuming.

Youre up for alot of fun with all that stuff. Youll see its pretty cool to build it up yourself with all new parts like that :)

Oh and PS: Gx, I think you forgot a little thingy called Windows 7 pro in that list ;)