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Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-23 22:24
by Psyrus
FuzzySquirrel wrote:I know it was under full load...that's why I linked it. It also has its idle usage too.
Also 750w would be fine for a Single GPU/i7 rig, and I'm pretty sure he knows that 750 would be enough right now, but he's thinking ahead. What if he decides he wants another 480 later? 750 would not cut it then.
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Again. 600w under full load (unlikely to see but it could easily use 400-500w under normal circumstances)
and Psyrus if you read a little further down the page they did an Average Power Consumption in a games benchmark. In which it still averaged over 350w.
There's a difference between Overkill and playing it Safe.
A 25% buffer for cap degradation over time is not 'playing it safe'? From the article you linked:
For all of the system wattages shown on this page, you can multiply by .87 to find out what the load on the PSU is rather than at the wall.
So a 522W load with GTX480 SLI, which means the 80+Gold rated Seasonic X750 would have about a ~30% wattage buffer at *peak* load. I know people won't listen to me even though I present the facts, but I thought I might as well throw them out there because I'm not sleepy yet
Obviously fan load is also a factor which is the one redeeming factor of 'overwatting' one's system, such that most PSUs won't have to spin up their fan much at <50% utilization.. but honestly with 120mm 'quiet' fans on high quality PSUs, I think the noise made by a GTX480 SLI setup will be way higher than that of your PSU

Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-23 22:30
by Mad-Mike
Im not understanding, but having too much watt can damage my computer?
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-23 23:25
by Psyrus
Mad-Mike wrote:Im not understanding, but having too much watt can damage my computer?
No, it's fine... having too much high efficiency wattage isn't really of detriment, it's just I dislike this misconception floating around the internet that somehow people will actually make use of a 1KW PSU when a 600-750 will provide more than enough (and in many cases be over the top)
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-24 11:23
by Mad-Mike
I have had alot of people saying 1k psu is not needed, 750w is well enough. So pyrsus you are 100% right.
But ive got the money now that I might not have in a couple of months/years if you know what I mean and might not be able to upgrade for a while so im only thinking ahead and getting it all now. infact im actually thinking getting an 850w now? im so confused with this psu lol
really much appreciated though, thanks all.
Going to order somthing else now
anymore suggestions before making this my final build? I was thinking more RAM maybe?
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-24 12:10
by Mad-Mike
Just orderd my monitor for the time being..

Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-24 23:02
by ma21212
SSDs are stupidly expensive man....I bought a small SSD for the OS and a HHD for the rest. works really well.
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-25 15:55
by Mad-Mike
Thats what im doing mate, Getting a 120GB SDD for my win7 and my software and then a 1TB for everything else.
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-27 17:11
by Mad-Mike
Got my Monitor in the post this morning. I must say its well worth the money I paid, It looks ten times better IRL than it did on the photo's.
My build pile is getting bigger

Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-29 15:22
by Mad-Mike
Edited my list - As im getting the same name graphics card as my motherboard but still the 480 ofc.
And ive decided to get the G510 keyboard aswell.
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-29 20:56
by LITOralis.nMd
Regarding the PSU:
Psyrus' post at 10-23-2010, 06:24 PM is correct.
expect an average of 13% misreporting and maintain a 30% buffer from peak draw.
I'm cheap and do a 25% buffer if it's borderline.
I'll say this though... I've bought 750W PSUs with the idea of upgrading the GPU to crossfire... and the entire PC was outdated by the time there were games out there that required the dual GPUs to play at all high settings.
I then used that PSU for a home media/theatre server , so no loss at the end...
Just to get you mad... I found the i7 950 at US$229.99 + 3.5% sales tax... total of $238.04 out the door.
Can't justify the purchase yet, I'm running a Q9550 and have yet to play a game or use an app that I seem to think is lagging.
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Enjoy the new rig... I am waiting on buying a new GPU until the 6890's are revealed and NVIDIA releases their next gen to create a price war.
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-10-29 22:28
by Mad-Mike
LITOralis.nMd wrote:
Just to get you mad... I found the i7 950 at US$229.99 + 3.5% sales tax... total of $238.04 out the door.
There a cheaper i7 950's out there but it all depends on make etc..
Im getting one of the popular good ones.
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-11-02 17:15
by Mad-Mike
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-11-02 21:25
by D33PS1X
Mad-Mike wrote:There a cheaper i7 950's out there but it all depends on make etc..
Im getting one of the popular good ones.
They're all made by intel. and are all the same processor, I don't Understand what your saying...
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-11-02 21:50
by BloodBane611
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-11-02 23:10
by Mad-Mike
Thanks BloodBane.
Yeah thats what i mean D33PS1X:
i7 950 - Gulftown
i7 950 - Bloomfield
i7 950 - Lynnfield
etc...
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-11-03 00:53
by Psyrus
Mad-Mike wrote:Thanks BloodBane.
Yeah thats what i mean D33PS1X:
i7 950 - Gulftown
i7 950 - Bloomfield
i7 950 - Lynnfield
etc...
Um no that's not what you meant either...
Intel Core i7 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The 950 is Bloomfield. Gulftown are the 6 core, 1366 i7s, and the Lynnfield are the 1156 i5 and i7 processors (i7-8XX series)
So I dunno what you thought you meant

Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-11-09 17:14
by Mad-Mike
Updated my list because they have just brought out the GTX 580 so im going to spend another 30quid more than the 480 to get it.
Plus its faster, quieter and uses less power than the 480.

Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-11-14 17:27
by Mad-Mike
Motherboard has come,

Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-11-14 17:56
by BloodBane611
You have way more patience than I do, I went from looking at comps to assembling in under 2 weeks. Let us know how it goes, looks like its shaping up well!
Re: New - Top Of The Range Custom PC!
Posted: 2010-11-14 19:24
by SnipingCoward
I do have the same mobo and might give you a few hints to save you some trouble.
Here is what I had to deal with and how I solved it:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f358-s ... t-6gb.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f358-s ... opped.html
FYI:
Shipped SATA cables are SATA-II cables, if you ever plan on using that SATA-III bus you have to get new cables as well.
And my RAM timings on mobo's default were wrong... too slow. I had to manually adjust it in bios.