Ok Guys. Steam!?1

General discussion of the Project Reality: BF2 modification.
goguapsy
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Re: Ok Guys. Steam!?1

Post by goguapsy »

Colonelcool125 wrote:PR is easy enough to DL anyway.
Well, for PR:BF2, I think the thing about steam is the advertisement.


I must say, that is an interesting idea - I wouldn't have played half the games I've played if not for their advertisements. Now, suppose they advertise "PR for BF2" on Steam --> They would sell more vBF2 copies, and PR would get better known. EA would be happy (or not, for people buying such an old game?) and Steam would be happier (nothing to lose, eh? They are making some money, supposedly).

This could be interesting, like, releasing PR about 6 months or a year on steam before PR2's release...


But well. We don't want this to become like Six Days in Fallujah or Medal of Honor.
Guys, when a new player comes, just answer his question and go on your merry way, instead of going berserk! It's THAT simple! :D

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Tim270
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Pretty sure you would need publisher approval also.
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Airbornedude
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Post by Airbornedude »

Well the problem here is talking to EA right. EA has their product on the steam store. You talk to EA and get a promo going including PR. EA talks to steam and gets the works going. Once EA establishes the steam PR, they hand it over to the PR team for updates and management. Why would EA not be interested in making money?

This is all public relations speaking here. No idea how to make PR compatible with steam.
Target_Practice_117
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if someone will go commander I'll get up close and call a JDAM on Valve... I hate steam.
Rezza
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PR mod should be available on steam!
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goguapsy
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Airbornedude wrote:Why would EA not be interested in making money?
Because BF2 is such an old (and cheap) game! I think they would be more interested in selling more copies of BFBC2.
Guys, when a new player comes, just answer his question and go on your merry way, instead of going berserk! It's THAT simple! :D

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Welshboy
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Airbornedude wrote: Why would EA not be interested in making money?
Against the EULA as well
Airbornedude
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Post by Airbornedude »

Ok. If blizzard can keep selling diablo 2 for 20 years why not. Maybe one day we can play PR on a mobile. Never would've thought that guys.......

Gamasutra - News - Analysis: Infinity Ward's Double-Edged Sword?

Basically activision does the grunt work for the games marketing success. The developers work on the game and the publisher gets the game heard, seen, drooled over. Steam provided a platform to skip the publisher and gain profit straight to the developer. It is one reason why valve is amazing right now. They are developing their own games and releasing on their platform. Similar to WoW and the blizzard loader.

Tripwire: Steam does not exploit indie developers - Neoseeker News Article

The question is: Does black sand want to make profit? If EA has such a grip on the BF2 content, won't the ARMA guys have the same?
whatshisname55
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Cassius wrote:Whatshisname who recently made a ton of money with his game
Huh? I made a game?!?!? Lol...
Airbornedude
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Re: Ok Guys. Steam!?1

Post by Airbornedude »

And there it is.

"We have the c4 engine license, we have the models textures and all the other badass stuff, a strong community, and the motivation." - PR Dev Team

Shining PR2 as a standalone game that mods ARMA2 and selling on steam is taking the risk and being rewarded. And now I'll fade back into the boards. :d uh:
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Dev1200
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Well, think how much good advertising on BF2 was.. now we're cluttered with "LOL BUNNYHOPZ N SNIPZORSS!"
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EazyCurrE
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Maybe they should give away PR2 to all the original PR:BF2 players :lol:
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Airbornedude
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Colonel...You need a copy of Arma 2: OA yes? I kind of used the wrong words but considering blacksand has license on the c4 engine, PR2 is not held up by Bohemia Interactive copyrights. PR2 is going to be a game developed by a game developer or a mod community?

Now back on topic. PR on steam is impossible why? Assuming EA hands over DICEs share of bananas and doesn't end up like activision getting sued by infinity ward for 500mill. EA pays steam their cut, pays dice their cut, and keeps the rest. Blacksand is getting nothing but boost in playerbase and popularity. For those who are b*tching about steam, buy discs. Why is steam not an option?
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I'm sorry if you disagree, but I HATE steam, for all it is... It is overpriced.. It constantly fails... It adds unnecessary logins/checks.. It uses 20mb of memory that could be better used elsewhere... I've had to uninstall all my games from steam to install one other (Alien vs predator...) so that was a day wasted reinstalling HL2 and DOW2 again... If the steam servers go down (which they do..) you will complain you cant play the game you love, for what seems like no reason.. It has no point(other than as distribution, its anti-piracy doesn't work.. people get round it and always will). Ok so it has the good point of auto-updating the games, although i have this off so it doesn't interrupt my other games(i have a slow internet speed, so i cant download + play).

Steam can be an option, but I do hope PR does not become a steam only game, I have already lost respect for CIV V for being steam, and AvP (as explained earlier, also their servers didn't work for months..), it means game manufacturers can readily release even more unfinished games in order to "patch them up later". I'm not saying PR will be like that, I am not an oracle, but I don't want to be stuck with another steam program that decides to fail when I want to play it..

In response to Airbornedude's comment about buying discs, I do, its just they require steam which annoys me, there is no point. By all means make PR downloadable via steam, but don't make it dependent on it, its another thing to go wrong. Also I note, yes I have repeated myself many times in this, sorry =].

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Airbornedude
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Post by Airbornedude »

Making PR a steam only game is way off. I'm trying to make my point that I think PR should be on steam, as well as stores, download hosts, and the PR site. Making PR2 steam only is also way off. PR2 should be everywhere.

Did I mention that depending on how successful PR2 is, steam sales could rake in considerable cash without any real publisher.
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as long as PR recruits its people from the community and not "experts" from the outside i think we'll be okay and as long as the DEV's play the game they make everythign will be really aweosme, to make a great game you have to make the gamer you would want to play not what you think you wnat to play.
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