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@raufbold:
He is right.
imo a new player knows what PR is, or he wouldnt downlaod it. He knows that its much more complex. PR installs the manual on the desktop automatically. So i dont understand why they directly click on "Project Reality 0.95.exe" but not on PRmanual.pdf ... When youve noticed how many sites the manual has, it must be clear to you that this game is different and that you probably need to read the manual.

Its not 0.3 anymore. But alot of new players dont understand this. There are jsut too much new players and too much question asked ingame. ofc if its a simple question wth a short answer I respond, but then I realize that if someones asking such a simple question he probably doesnt know anything about the rest of the game.
When I was new in PR, that was completely different, it wasnt a problem at all. Nearly all players were new and the game was simple, you could learn it in 3-5 days playing completely by yourself. It was pretty much vanilla like and not nearly as serious as it was going to get around 0.5, so nobody cared about asking and answering questions.

But now... guys, you have 64 players on a server who are extremely concentraded on the game (i hope). its the most complex build ever.
but sadly, the fact that there are more and more new players, who dont take the game seriously and play it as it was vanilla, is completely contra productive, since the game is harder, more complex and more teamplay oriented then anytime before. In my eyes PR is currently experiencing a retrogression

@Zoddom

You can easily learn PR by joining an inf squad and listening without having read the Manual. If someone asks: " How do I request a kit? " The easy option is to yell how noobish they are and how its people like them who ruin games. However, (IMO) the best option would be to invite them to your squad even though it's armor, infantry, recon, CAS etc to explain them why the server is yelling at them.

When I say invite them to your squad, I'm not saying you should let them use assets but just use Voip to communicate.

Elektro wrote:@Zoddom

You can easily learn PR by joining an inf squad and listening without having read the Manual.

thats waht most people think. but the truth is, that its just not possible. PR is not only about requesting kits and changing camera modes in tanks. its much too complex to be teached during a serious round.

Its not the newbies or the pubbers i hate, its the newbie/pubbers that act like smacktards and asshats that i hate. If you state that you're a new, chances are you'll be told to go to a co-op server first to try out the game, which you should. If you act mature, willing to learn new things, and listen to your SL, expierienced players wont hate on you

Raufbold wrote:That doesn?t sound very manly, karambaitos. Read the manual first...Seriously, how many times did you read the manual for a shooter. After all its basically just mouse and ASWD one might think.

That doesnt change the fact that its advised even in game that you read the damned manual

all i can say is read the manual. It helps.

Zoddom wrote:thats waht most people think. but the truth is, that its just not possible. PR is not only about requesting kits and changing camera modes in tanks. its much too complex to be teached during a serious round.

That's what I did for my first round and I turned out just fine. I can still remember my days as a noob trooper, with scarcely even any vBF2 experience. It really was an exciting feeling, even more so than starting up a regular Battlefield game.

PR is not friendly to newbies who try to do EVERYTHING just because they can (i.e. - crashing choppers, building FOB in middle of nowhere, leaving logi truck somewhere after used it for transport...etc.).

PR IS friendly to newbies who are willing to patiently read the manual and is willing to learn.

By the way in case OP did not know: PR manual covers MUCH more than just how to move around and shoot.

ComradeHX wrote:PR is not friendly to newbies who try to do EVERYTHING just because they can (i.e. - crashing choppers, building FOB in middle of nowhere, leaving logi truck somewhere after used it for transport...etc.).

PR IS friendly to newbies who are willing to patiently read the manual and is willing to learn.

Right. PR is friendly to you if you understand your place and don't try to be John Rambo on your first day in the game.

Cobhris wrote:Right. PR is friendly to you if you understand your place and don't try to be John Rambo on your first day in the game.

dito. everything else ruins the game for everyone else.

This game is fun. Definitely not friendly to noobs. More decent people playing this than most other games.

The game is very noobs unfriendly but as some guys said there is a very friendly guide, Also I think the community is very friendly, I remember 3 years ago when I started playing, I asked a lot of questions and the first question I was asked is, Did you read the guide? If I say yes, They would help me, If not they would direct me there, Because the guide has pretty much everything.
But as you said, questions may rise during the game and I suggest joining an infantry squad and asking the squad mates via VOIP about your question and I am sure they will answer you!

Good Luck mate...

Cheers,
Rudy AKA Punkbuster

rudy_eila wrote:The game is very noobs unfriendly but as some guys said there is a very friendly guide, Also I think the community is very friendly, I remember 3 years ago when I started playing, I asked a lot of questions and the first question I was asked is, Did you read the guide? If I say yes, They would help me, If not they would direct me there, Because the guide has pretty much everything.
But as you said, questions may rise during the game and I suggest joining an infantry squad and asking the squad mates via VOIP about your question and I am sure they will answer you!

Good Luck mate...

Cheers,
Rudy AKA Punkbuster

Too bad the guide is offline.

Von_Gnome wrote:Too bad the guide is offline.

Well, with "guide" he is referring to the manual. You get it on your PC when you install PR, so it dosent really need to be online. (But im very sure you can find it somewhere on this site if you deleted your own manual.)
I think you mean the link "guide" on the top of this page. That apears to need some fixing..

Von_Gnome wrote:Too bad the guide is offline.

It is infact online: https://www.realitymod.com/manual/pr_manual.pdf

Gosu-Rizzle wrote:Well, with "guide" he is referring to the manual. You get it on your PC when you install PR, so it dosent really need to be online. (But im very sure you can find it somewhere on this site if you deleted your own manual.)
I think you mean the link "guide" on the top of this page. That apears to need some fixing..

That's what I meant... I forgot its called the Manual lol

Yes it can be very difficult for new players to learn PR. Everyone says "read the Manual" which is always a good start but that doesn't really "teach" you how to play the game, more importantly what button to push and I don't know many who read through the manual and memorize it. So I would say its always best to read through the manual then get the hands on experience by jumping into a training/coop server. Also its advisable to when a newbie comes in to first tell others your a newbie and then be very humble and learn by doing what your squad leader tells you. Don't try to be the high scorer the first time out. Stay back with standard kit and just observer. Way to many newbies think PR is going to be a "run and Gun" game just like the consoles. Half the PR game is in tactics and teamwork...something that doesn't exist in the majority of online games.

One thing that really sets off veterns in some newbie who just downloaded the game and thinks they are the best pilot ever or one who doesn't listen to the squad leader and takes the sniper kit because they are the "bad *** sniper" in BF2. Attitudes and egos doesnt' get anyone too far in a game that requires teamwork.

For the vetern players though we should be more welcoming to new players so the game doesn't die out due to lack of interest. The developers do a great job at keeping new features going but at some point we need to keep new blood flowing so we can have populated servers.

I totally enjoy it when a new player comes in and say "I am new so bear with me" then asked questions along the way and understands their place is to learn, not the greatest player ever was.

Limitbreaker wrote:As said in topic.

Yes, I'm a puber. But I learn fast. Proof is that I ain't a pubber anymore in eg. DotA.

But still, yes, I'm that ******* AuliX trying to damn play @ NwA server today, I do understand that some people have little time for the game and don't bother helping, but nobody?


TL;DR: emo thread

Well there is always 2 sides to a story.

You came into the Nwa Mumble channel, and started spamming all your questions, while being unlinked. That means that everybody in the channel could hear you. We could not talk in mumble nor game VOIP, because you kept spamming the channel.

You had some problem with mumble, thats fine, but you dont disrupt (almost) a whole server with it. I told you to go read the instuctions at realitymod, because you problem would be mentioned there.
You response was "I DONT CARE"
You wanted a quick fix without having doing the work.

You where being kicked out of all the sqds you join, why I have no clue, but it properly has something to do you you attitude in general. And this you kept spamming in mumble also.

Later after you left our NwA server, you returned to our mumble channel and started playing loud music, just because you didnt get your solution the easy way.

Also, you have just been reported to solo an apc on our server
Aulix: Soloing and wasting BTR 4.12

You where warned several times, yet again you didnt listen, and we lost the Apc, because you where soloing.


PR isnt the game for you I would think. There is no quick fix. It has a hard learning curve, and takes time, and you have to read alot, among those the manual which you said you didnt read, and didnt care to do.

PS: Dont come back. Your kind isnt really wanted on our server.

PS: Dont come back. Your kind isnt really wanted on our server.

now that's a little rash, isn't it? you had a clarifying text about this guy's behavior, whose hostility was fueled by ignorance of gameplay and inmaturity, but that last comment was just unnecessary. give the guy some time, let him read his books, let him kill his bots and give him another chance, that's the way this game's learned, no one was perfect in his first match.

on another note: this reminds me of how the pl.rangers clan wasted all IDF armor on iron ridge in one fell swoop. the polaks are building up a reputation

I find some players to be stuck up, and have no patience to listen/talk with new players. I even had one jack-off think I was new when I refused to sit by an unknown cache. After building a fob right on top of the cache he decides he wants to ride out with his one buddy in a techie leaving the rest of the squad on a purple cache when the blue one needed defense.

Instead of being vocal about it I said fk it, and started walking myself to a smart position. "You must be new" he said, "Why are you by the purple cache with an RPG?" he asks as if he didn't just drop everyone off in in this useless location. He kicks me after some arrogant comment about noobs, which helped me realize that this game has asshats like any other online game out there. Funny thing is that this genius basically showed BluFor exactly where the unknown was, and within 10 minutes they had a fob built up 100 meters away which I managed to eliminate by myself while the noob hit a marked mine.


Overall you will run into those big head small brain players more often on some servers then others, in time you learn which communities are worth hanging around and which ones have helpful payers. I'd like to toss some names out but I know there are rules against it, so just know that not everyone who plays PR is an elitist and remember the names of the ones who treat you bad and don't frequent their servers.