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Re: Milan ATGM for Taliban

Posted: 2010-12-12 03:22
by Total_Overkill
[R-DEV]Hauteclocque wrote: Actually, they haven't really stolen the MILANs...we let them after a retreat (French Forces were under heavy fire and had to retreat, but they didn't manage to destroy the MILANs before leaving...that reminds me WWII French stuff being reprocessed by the Germans after our defeat
Must not make stereotypical french joke to Dev... must resist urge to laugh... argh >.<

Re: Milan ATGM for Taliban

Posted: 2010-12-12 10:05
by BroCop
billdan wrote:The issue with introducing MILAN's for Taliban is one of balance. Imagine there is an established-asset- threshold for every map. This represents the limit of scope on how powerful the fighting factions' assets can be in relation to their opponents'. If you give Taliban the MILAN on Archer, you are exceeding the current threshold. In order to maintain a similar level of balance as before, you then also need to give Bluefor a F-16 or A-10 or Apache. See where this is going...

I guess the actual question we should be asking is not whether it's realistic, but whether the current balance on Taliban map(s) is favorable. I think it is.
The entire argument is that the balance is scewed on some maps (specifically Archer....yes ironically).

The suggestion isnt for it to be a handheld weapon but actually a emplacement like the SPG (or at least thats what I understood)

Re: Milan ATGM for Taliban

Posted: 2010-12-12 15:34
by Tannhauser
Total_Overkill wrote:Must not make stereotypical french joke to Dev... must resist urge to laugh... argh >.<
Then don't? :neutral:
Doesn't matter if he's a Dev.

I don't think it's a good idea to give Taliban Milans for the many reasons stated precedently and also because Taliban already benefit from the terrains of the maps they're in wich favors defense along with the fact they do not lose tickets from dying.
Plus, it'll result in less people defending caches and suddendly squads popping ATGMs in locations that may prevent BLUFOR from even exiting their mainbases.

Re: Milan ATGM for Taliban

Posted: 2010-12-12 16:15
by Hotrod525
[quote=""'[R-DEV"]Hauteclocque;1508636']I didn't know they had been trained by a ME source, thanks for the info. :-)

Actually, they haven't really stolen the MILANs...we let them after a retreat (French Forces were under heavy fire and had to retreat, but they didn't manage to destroy the MILANs before leaving...that reminds me WWII French stuff being reprocessed by the Germans after our defeat :mrgreen :)

Anyway, MILAN missiles are quite expensive, I don't think any "friend" country would provide the Talibans ammo.

For info, one MILAN missile is 15K Euros.[/quote]

Beleive me Iranian are providing alot more than 15K euros to Taliban,

Back on topic, an RPG29 can be good instead of Milan.


[quote="samogon100500""]
So my idea - why not to make this weapon in huge,opened maps like op.Archer.
Actually - BLUFOR have more power thats taliban on 150%(Opened hills,optic sights,uberMG with optics,uber APCs etc.),thats what i say can be make more team balance.
So i think taliban can be choose between 2 SPGs on 1 Milan ATGM.[/quote]

The thing you dont know if after the attack U.S. Air force get in the melee and drop thounsands of pound of HE =D

Re: Milan ATGM for Taliban

Posted: 2010-12-12 16:56
by samogon100500
Hotrod525 wrote:Beleive me Iranian are providing alot more than 15K euros to Taliban,

Back on topic, an RPG29 can be good instead of Milan.
It's will be nice...
You will make RPG29 model? :lol:
Milan was done.
Hotrod525 wrote:The thing you dont know if after the attack U.S. Air force get in the melee and drop thounsands of pound of HE =D
But anyway why ISAF still not destroy Taliban?He fight since 2001 year and still fight.
May be drop to a-stan some nuke bombs to destroy everything?Imagine there's nothing,no talibs,no Milans ATGMs,no china-made AKs etc.

Re: Milan ATGM for Taliban

Posted: 2010-12-12 18:49
by Hotrod525
samogon100500 wrote:
But anyway why ISAF still not destroy Taliban?He fight since 2001 year and still fight.
May be drop to a-stan some nuke bombs to destroy everything?Imagine there's nothing,no talibs,no Milans ATGMs,no china-made AKs etc.
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Infraction given for flame-baiting - Jigsaw

Re: Milan ATGM for Taliban

Posted: 2010-12-12 20:44
by PoisonBill
Hotrod525 wrote:
idd :|

But anyway why ISAF still not destroy Taliban?

He fight since 2001 year and still fight.

May be drop to a-stan some nuke bombs to destroy everything?

Imagine there's nothing,no talibs,no Milans ATGMs,no china-made AKs etc.