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dtacs wrote:As people have mentioned, what is stopping the Insurgents or Taliban from simply staying off the cache and not bothering to go near it? Sure, the BLUFOR can search the whole map from top to bottom but its highly likely that they will either miss a cache, or take so many casualties along the way that the gain from destroying one wouldn't balance it out.

Why? Collaborators are exactly that, a tool meant to represent the civilian population of the area being sympathetic to the Insurgent cause. Giving them a weapon makes them free game and basically gives a reason to simply return the Doctor kit.

Why? You add many suggestions but no reasoning behind them. How much distance is needed to be a global factor taking into account ALL maps including smaller ones such as Fallujah?

Once again, you are just saying random **** without backing it up with any real logic.

That isn't even seen on Hardcore let alone many other servers. On the servers where teamwork counts, the Insurgent faction is often smart enough to stay well away from the BLUFOR in order force them to come closer. Either that or raiding parties which is a very effective tactic.

I haven't seen ammo techies being used as suicide vehicles period.

Take a little more time to make your suggestion something else. Suggestions which have no reasoning or are extremely vague are boring and uninteresting. No developer is going to bother to read it when you bring nothing new to the table. Essentially you're wasting your time.

Wrong, re-arming small arms is also possible at the mains.

2. RE: collaborators with weapons.....ALTERNATE GAME MODE. With intel points removed, having unarmed players would be pointless

I see you have never played Ramiel, Fallujah West, or Kokan

dtacs wrote:An alternate game mode which really provides nothing except regular Insurgency with some random changes.

dtacs wrote:Don't patronize me. On your server where someone can actively use it as a suicide vehicle sure, but on servers which go out of their way to ensure a realistic environment such as TG and PRTA, it isn't allowed.

hence the alternate insurgency, not a new name. its ok to not like the suggestion, as do i. but constructive criticism is always better. aas modes have alternates with nothing but vehicle layout changes and dod additions.

dtacs wrote:But thats just it, this brings nothing interesting to the table and honestly isn't worth adding in when there are many more gamemode proposals which have more critical thinking and logic put into them.

If its happening on other servers then I highly suggest that they add the rule that ramming with vehicles, be it against infantry or tanks etc. is grounds for dicipline. TG does this and its excellent not to be rammed by a jeep at the docks after landing in a chopper.

Put your money where your mouth is and start making actual suggestions.

tommytgun wrote:+1 I really agree with the no intel points thing, that's how I always wished it was, adds to the realism of recon-ing

darkside12 wrote:Do you know how NATO forces find most of the caches in Iraq and Afghanistan? From the locals telling them. Hence, intelligence.

Taking away the intel points system would ruin insurgency. The game mode is quite hard now, whether your BluFor or OpFor. I disagree with everything stated by the OP and 100% agree with dtacs. He sums up everything quite well.

akatabrask wrote:I like the ideas!

5 - remove spawning on caches - mostly to force the insurgents to build hideouts and thus prevent bluefor from immediately spot the cache judging from the endless stream of insurgents spawning there.

doop-de-doo wrote:Let me just clarify two things real quick.

Are the caches not marked for either team, or only removed for BLUFOR?

Would the intel points system be removed as nothing would be rewarded for them (caches never get marked)?

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Why give weapons to the collaborators? If you kill a civilian, shouldn't you still be penalized, even if it's only through points? That's part of the war right there.

Considering that you seem to want people to only be able to re-arm from caches, does this mean that the Main Base depot would be removed?

If the repair depot is removed from the Main Base, that would definitely reduce suicide tactics involving vehicles, as they would not be able to be repaired.

illidur wrote:you know how much easier it would be to win as blufor if you did this? 4 or 5 caches all on the map at once would mean you would accidently find them easy. noobs will always have the "protect the unknown" strategy also.

remove the main spawn? no.

although i agree that i would like to see an alternate version of insurgency. but it could be minor changes like asset layout or something. this suggested mode would require huge changes.

'= wrote:H[=CubCadet1972;1537109']Caches would never get marked automatically.

Smeggie wrote:Fair enough, 128 players would cut down on cashes being left undefended and taken out easily. Bluefor would need to work tighter to go without intel too, which is also a good thing.

However, another reason for cashes being changed in PR so that they don't all spawn at the start of the round is because of players who have team switched from the insurgent side. Any player that switches to bluefor instantly knows which buildings/rooms to attack.



The insurgents would still get map locations for caches tho, right?