From an infantryman to chopper pilots;

[=LK= A.H.]

Landing on rooftops isn't bad, IE on Dragonfly it is the best way to get around. Jump out and get inside the buildings through the skylights.

I did say incompetent pilots landing on rooftops, and that's when it becomes bad.

[Ford_Jam]

agree with that you should avoid flying with and unstable station. i have done this, and crashed. luckily it was empty.

but surely you didn't need to put the pilot's name out?

I wouldn't mind if it was my name up there :\ baw. someone made fun of me on the internet.

Rofl, I instantly thought this thread was about Burning Sands from this morning dtacs
I would have figured that it would be common sense not to take incredibly useful/expensive assets if you're just going to CTD/be bad.

[Sgt. Mahi]

On a "pilot to infantry" note: Always run out to the side and go prone when getting out of the chopper. Choppers hovering above uneven ground can sometimes be very dangerous if you are too close

[Midnight_o9]

Last round I played, we used choppers a lot and many times one or more squad members have been killed by crates while bailing. If you pilots could drop the crates BEFORE we jump out or wait us to clear the area before dropping, it d be cool cause sometimes the body get stuck between the 2 crates and cant be revived...

[BenHamish]

On a "pilot to infantry" note: Always run out to the side and go prone when getting out of the chopper. Choppers hovering above uneven ground can sometimes be very dangerous if you are too close

If it's any consolation I jump out ASAP, and run behined cover (or even better, TERRAIN). Sometimes i'm the only guy left to revive the squad after some last ditch attempt to avoid a tk, or a pilot/lag error leading to a crash.

I feel that some passengers are very lethargic at getting away from choppers, and it doesn't help the pilot or the SL.

OT: Overall I think 50% of pilots in PR are excellent. Another 40% are good, but have language or communication difficulties.

[Dunehunter]

Jump out, prone. Lol when the other 5 people get whiped out when the chopper swerves to one side.

[Tim270]

On a "pilot to infantry" note:

Also spam the commo rose saying 'go' when all your troops are out, saves the pilot having to spam F1 all the time and then find some guy is just sitting on the skid/ramp when you try to take off.

[Psyrus]

My inability to determine your type of sarcasm is annoying

No sarcasm intended in that particular post, I share your frustration... especially being both an inf SL and a frequent pilot who is now having CTD issues.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

To pilots:

If you're returning to main after dropping infantry always leave a crate - its free (yes max of ten per vehicle) and the enemy can't use it.

If you're crashing always drop a crate - means you're not stuck with a pistol if you survive.

[saXoni]

I guess its time for me to tell you guys why I took a second chopper after crashing to desktop with the first one:
Yesterday was like the first time I CTD'd for like, I don't know, a month. I've never CTD'd two times in the same round. I just had the worst luck ever.
If I had crashed due to connectionproblems, I wouldn't jumped in the second chopper.

And Dtacs, why'd you post my name? That has nothing to do with it.

[saXoni]

May I ask why you got in with him the 2nd time, or was it on a server that squad names reserve assets on so you didn't have too much choice ?.


Hmm has 3 PB and 2 GGC bans as well as 36 aliases (in BF2) and 8 guids, sounds like a wonderful player does saXoni.PR

You actually did some research and found out that people with similar names are douchebags?
And no, I haven't been banned 5 times for whatever your reason is. I've never played vBF2 with this user, and I'm not banned from any server on PR.

Idiot.

[Arnoldio]

Maybe he had very bad luck as he said, but i really dont think that there is a lot of full time pilots with those problems. Besides making the squad rage and feel pretty DEAD, the pilot has no fun either, so he is going to stop flying if CTDs are regular. But if you crash first time, ofcourse you're gonna go back in and fly, thinking it was just something random.

[saXoni]

Maybe he had very bad luck as he said, but i really dont think that there is a lot of full time pilots with those problems. Besides making the squad rage and feel pretty DEAD, the pilot has no fun either, so he is going to stop flying if CTDs are regular. But if you crash first time, ofcourse you're gonna go back in and fly, thinking it was just something random.

Exactly. As I said, I've never CTD'd two times in the same round. I don't think too many has.

[LudacrisKill]

Every and I mean EVERY infantry needs to know the .95 is crashable and ANYONE can crash, and if it happens when your piloting a full helicopter, then oh well. Not the pilots fault, not his fault for having a kick *** rig. Don't blame the pilot for EVERYTHING!

But it is 99% of the time it is THE PILOTS FAULT. Its just something a pilot has to accept.

[Psyrus]

But it is 99% of the time it is THE PILOTS FAULT. Its just something a pilot has to accept.

When he said crash, I believe he meant crash to desktop.. which I would say isn't the pilots fault...

[Jafar Ironclad]

I'm going to have to straddle the line here:

dtacs, you've every right to point out the error that is flying while technically unstable, and I perfectly understand your frustration when this happens... mentioning Saxoni's name on it without being more familiar his actual track record seems a bit uncalled for. I've flown with/gunned for him quite a lot in the last few months and he didn't seem to have that many stability problems, and he's a competent operator to boot.

Saxoni, I know you're as much a fan of piloting aircraft as I am, and you're certainly in your rights to defend your honor; however, I find its generally a good idea to not to pick up the pilot's helmet or the remainder of the round after a catastrophic CTD outcome. Lightning CAN strike the same spot twice if its PR.

Everyone: Stability problems happen to everyone. Reason does not excuse outcome, but it DOES determine who/what is at fault. Do not overly convict someone of wrongdoing by extrapolating a single scenario of errors.

[mat552]

But landing on the bunkers on Kashan...I fail to see why so many pilots think this is a good idea

Because it's so easy to do! It's a nice stable landing platform, elevated..with great..sight lines..and..oh...

Anyway, I can assure you dtacs, any pilot worth his salt is more angry he CTD'd with a full load then you are. You can almost always trust a pilot who knows his system has had too much to fly for the night.

I'm sorry for your pain. Have a crate!

[saXoni]

Saxoni, I know you're as much a fan of piloting aircraft as I am, and you're certainly in your rights to defend your honor; however, I find its generally a good idea to not to pick up the pilot's helmet or the remainder of the round after a catastrophic CTD outcome. Lightning CAN strike the same spot twice if its PR.

I will certainly keep that in mind. I was not aware of it until now.

[Jigsaw]

*General Warning*



Let's keep the name-calling/mud-slinging etc out of this chaps, whilst there may be a legitimate concern here or not it can be brought up without mentioning specifics or more importantly flaming.

Infractions will go out if there is anymore of it.